I got my tax return and plan to use it to buy a D600 or D7100. I'm bothered by the dust/oil problem and hesitate to spend my money. Has Nikon solved the problem(s)? Should I wait a few months or go ahead and take the plunge? If I forgo the D600 I'll get the D7100. Users are reporting no dust or oil problems with that body. What bothers me the most is that my D300s purcased 2 years ago and my D700 purchased over 4 years ago have only needed a blower brush to rid the dust particles and the D600 is like my old D1x from many years ago which required regular cleaning.
I have an early D600 that did have the spot problem. I'm comfortable with using a wet sensor cleaner. I used one once for the original oil spots, then again after a guide threw sand all over my camera in Antelope Canyon when he wanted to highlight a sunbeam. After that I had to totally clean my camera. I have taken about 1K exposures after that with no evidence of spots. Basically, I have found that the spotting problem is a lot of furor over something that's trivial to fix.
I think the d600 is a phenomenal camera and if you have one of the good ones its all rainbows and sunshine. However, if you just spent $2000 on a camera that needs constant sensor cleanings: keeping in mind if you damage anything in the process you void your warranty, I would say that is worth some furor and is not a trivial fix.
Expecting a new camera to function like a new camera is not unreasonable to most people. If I bought a new car that needed constant oil changes everying 500 miles I would be equally dissatisfied, even though I can change the oil myself.
Are we really censoring people on a site dedicated to an art form.
Why can't people who don't want to read it, just not read it? It's not like people are getting personal or exchanging insults or swearing.
Anyway I apologize for offering an opinion the OP didn't ask for, this was a thread seeking information from members of some importance to another member and I don't want to be a part of preventing people from doing that.
>Are we really censoring people on a site dedicated to an art >form. >
Yeah, that's my thing, suppressing free expression, especially of artists.
Seriously though, Jason - what more can we possible talk about when it comes to dirt and oil on a sensor, or about people returning cameras, and/or buying cleaning kits, and/or signing online petitions, or/and...? We have HUNDREDS of posts on this in various threads on this topic - do you really think we need more?
I never said, btw, hide the threads. Heck, you can't get past the first page of this forum without seeing all the threads already running hot and heavy - I am amazed at times how little other discussion on the D600 takes place here.
Personally, since returning to Nikonians, I've started threads on the great white balance, the high DR, the low noise, high ISO, etc, etc, of the D600... Get the idea of a trend in my posts? Yes, I admit it, I am a anti-dirtite.
And guess what, the "Please post dust or no dust problems along with your D6...", which was on the first page of the D600 forum for over 4 MONTHS, has 4110 views as of this moment.
Finally, all I said was to consider locking them down for those that would like to read them to become informed. Pin them at the top for ready access if that would help.
In the end, 8 months after the filth issue was first noted, more commentary is just icing on the icing on the icing of the cake.
So, my last 2 cents on the filthy, dirty sensor subject,
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof " - Carl Sagan
I agree Stan that hyperbole doesn't get us anywhere and I hope I don't descend there often. I am yet to see any 'issue' in a recent Nikon camera that is so terrible that the sky would fall.
Like most things, there are just competing reasonable views on an issue based on one's own experiences and view of data and evidence. As long as people are able to state their opinion without needing to resort to putting down other people or suggesting they are simply unreasonable, then a little repetition doesn't hurt anyone - indeed it is generally allowed here in my experience.
That being said, if a mod wants to say enough is enough, so be it, no huge deal, I mean its not life and death stuff. So enough out of me on this!
Just want to conclude on a positive point and note that I have constantly referred to the D600 as a phenomenal camera and still believe that, notwithstanding my 'other' view.
I have a D3x (same 24MP), it is considered as a great camera, with no problems (apart the price )... At f/22 I'm sure I have more spots then on that picture !!! Sure, I clean it from time to time and give it to my shop twice a year for a more complete overhaul (lost a screw recently, surprised me), but I use primes, change lens often and know that dust is a fact of life in digital photography (and don't get me started on film spots and scratches )! The best oil spot I've had was when mounting the brand new out of the box 105 Micro VR, when I pressed the AF-On button, I literarily saw the damn thing coming at me in the viewfinder, I almost ducked by reflex, and there it was on the captor for me to clean !!!!
Since I've given all my lenses to clean, and clean them myself in between... And surprise... Much less annoying spots (but I'll always find some at f/22)
I had extensive dust on my sensor. Cleaned it the other day and took care of about 90%. Still a couple stubborn ones. I didn't have the right size swabs so used my leftover Dx swabs made a couple passes. Ill do it again when I get the full size sensor swabs. Love the camera!
Tue 26-Mar-13 07:39 AM | edited Wed 27-Mar-13 12:00 AM by mpage
I found the Lenspen SensorKlear II with Articulated Tip very useful. They cost about $11 at B&H. I use it as part of my cleaning kit: VisibleDust 7x loupe, FireFly Blower, VisibleDust Arctic Butterfly 724 brush, and VisibleDust swabs and liquid solutions.
The LED lights on the Arctic Butterfly are not effective. They do not illuminate the camera's chamber very well. I use a head-mounted LED light to get a better view of the camera's chamber and digital sensor.