Does anyone know the real reason for Nikon’s drastic price on the D600 kit? Marketing? To sell more FX lenses? Did Nikon test the waters to see what people will pay and decide 2500.00 is too much and then dropped the price? Or perhaps the dust issue stalled sales. Just curious, and does anyone know if Nikon did this before so soon after releasing a product? Maybe a D600s is comming out soon Fall 2013 or so?
I certainly don't know the real reason. Thom Hogan had some ideas around pushing volume. I could see some value in helping dealers make some money after all the questions about the D800 and D600 issues.
It is interesting. Obviously Nikon has ramped up production and is trying to push through a lot of product. Maybe there is some soft volume in Asia and Europe related to the economy.
I am a bit concerned about the impact longer term. I'll certainly think twice about being an early buyer after seeing the big discounts on virtually everything. Add the early adopter risk, and I may be more cautious.
I wonder if it is a bit of a pricing strategy. Look at the 70-300 lens that was heavily discounted last year. That pricing was just promotional pricing and the lens is still available at the original price.
>It is interesting. Obviously Nikon has ramped up production >and is trying to push through a lot of product. Maybe there is >some soft volume in Asia and Europe related to the economy. > Then why not lower prices or offer these deals in Asia/Europe?
>I am a bit concerned about the impact longer term. I'll >certainly think twice about being an early buyer after seeing >the big discounts on virtually everything. Add the early >adopter risk, and I may be more cautious.
Me too. Hate to lose money due to my exuberance!
> >I wonder if it is a bit of a pricing strategy. Look at the >70-300 lens that was heavily discounted last year. That >pricing was just promotional pricing and the lens is still >available at the original price. But this is just me....
I have to wonder as to whether it is related to some more updated releases. I am thinking about an update to the D7000, as well as a long awaited D400.I'd like to have upgraded to a D800 (in spite of the fact that I am enjoying my D600!)- the fps/FX bothers me. Would the inclusion of an XQD card have increased the fps at all? The D4, while it looks to be an exemplary tool utilizes the XQD card and is the only camera thus far to do so. Nikon needs to address these issues.
In the end, I could have waited and likely paid $1500 for the yet to be released high end DX (D7000 replacement) but for $500 extra I am back in the big league sensor size now. The more that go FX are less likely to go to something else.
As one would have it, I am already eyeing something like the 17-35 for landscape rather than the 10-24 if I was with DX. My Tamron 90mm for my D90 worked fine on D600 and have and 300mm non-VR to play with.
>In the end, I could have waited and likely paid $1500 for the >yet to be released high end DX (D7000 replacement) but for >$500 extra I am back in the big league sensor size now. The >more that go FX are less likely to go to something else.
I disagree with this statement. I am well versed with DX and have only just begun my journey into the FX sensor size. Please understand that by well versed I do not mean that I am an expert in...I'd give my eye teeth...not sure if I still have them since I am old, old, old..nevertheless I'd give everything to be an expert with either DX or FX or anything else for that matter!
Best of luck though with your new D600. I am quite sure you will do very well with it. > >As one would have it, I am already eyeing something like the >17-35 for landscape rather than the 10-24 if I was with DX. >My Tamron 90mm for my D90 worked fine on D600 and have and >300mm non-VR to play with.
>There's always "it's Christmas in 6 days" to take >into account
No doubt that there is more than one reason. However, until the 6D, Nikon did not have to lower the price, because there was no other camera like it for the price. IMO, there still is not, but Nikon and Canon always compete.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof " - Carl Sagan
>IMO, it's because Canon is finally shipping the 6D.
Interesting comment, because this presumes the buyer would be choosing between a 6D and a D600. Buyers who already have Canon or Nikon lenses would, presumably, not be making that choice because they're already into one system or another.
But, the really interesting part of it (at least, from my perspective) is that if the users in either case have a DSLR with lenses designed for APS-C (DX, in Nikon-speak), then the choice is reasonable. Thinking about my own case, most of my lenses are DX-specific, so if I were considering a D600 that would mean getting rid of most of my current lenses and buying new ones. And, if I were doing that, it would seem reasonable that I'd look at Canon's offerings along with Nikon's.
Canon is the same as Nikon, of course; they have APS-C-specific lenses too. So, if this is a factor (seems reasonable), it must be because both Canon and Nikon see these cameras as ways to get the users of one brand to switch to the other.
>>IMO, it's because Canon is finally shipping the 6D.
>this presumes the buyer would be choosing between a 6D and a D600
Thus Nikon holiday prices a bundle deal of body and lens. Seems logical.
While Nikon allows people to use their DX lenses on FX cameras, that is not a possibility for someone upgrading in the Canon world. So it is a way to attract people away from DX sensor Canons to FX Nikon.
Just a perspective,
Edit for typo
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof " - Carl Sagan
I think Nikon is using its technological edge over Canon at the moment to become #1 SLR player. It is combination of technology and production capacity which obviously allow Nikon to churn more bodies at lower price. What it means for us the users is that the FX format is already eclipsing the DX in the prosumer segment. DX will be left for the sub 1K entry level SLR's. I think that the D7K replacement will be priced around/below 1K, so the D600 will make sense at 1.5K. The shift to FX will drive up the sales of FX lenses with huge bargains of off-loaded DX glass on eBay. Nikon wins big on that. Personally I like the return of the 35mm age into the mainstream digital photography. Canon and Sony will follow with an avalanche of new lower cost FX models in the next couple of years. Even better. The only retained value will be in the quality FX glass.
its nearing christmas and they want to put a dent in canon sales. Last year i was shopping for lens..waited till this time of year, then i found my lens on sale for 200 less than original price. 2 months later, went back to original price..then the earth quake..then my lens was worth even more lol I try not to purchase anything that is just released, did that with my SVT Raptor and i had to take it in for its transmission on more than one occasion.
My new D600 was just recently purchased, who knows what to expect now, but it is 500 dollars less than what it was 2 months ago.
I just spent a little time at my local shop handling the D600. I discussed the price issue with the sales guy. He noted that Nikon does this sort of thing all the time with all of their products. And that there doesn't seem to be any logic or rhyme/reason to it. Sometimes they will offer a $100 "intsant rebate" on a camera for a while and then that will go away and then they will offer $150 and then $50... None of it makes a lot of sense.
They didn't have any in stock (I was handling one of their rentals). In fact their stock seemed to be pretty much wiped out in general. Ultimately I ordered the 2 lens kit (24-85 and 70-300) from JR.com for $2390.
Several of the online shops state that the price is good through 12/29. Whether that gets extended, who knows. But I still think they'll have a hard time putting the price all the way back up after this.
Not a clue. I do not remember seeing Nikon drop a price two months after issue of a new model. I bought my D200 for $599 when the D300 was brought out and I couldn't have been happier, but the D200 had been out a LONG time already. I am mad about the D600 $ drop but no law prevents this. I paid $2100 for the body and now for $100 less could get $700 in additional products. Sigh.
Yes - I talked with an owner at a large dealer yesterday who confirmed these are promotions and not changes to the future list pricing. The price will go up again on most cameras and lenses when the rebates end. Also remember that Nikon strictly prohibits dealers from promoting or selling below list price. No dealer is going to risk violating that restriction.
From an accounting standpoint, this strongly encourages dealers to order merchandise - and dealers want to move it. It's a different decision for a dealer that is nearly sold out of their V1 stock or other models that are being discontinued. The dealer I spoke to is marketing the D600 but not the V1.
>Do you think D600 outfit prices will jump back up after >Christmas? > >Bill >D300
I would really like to know the answer to this Q too. In fact that is the reason why I finally signed up. I don't really need a new camera but would like new one so i can wait til prices go down. But if this is indeed just a Holiday promotion or year end clearance then the prices will go up in jan. Hopefully it is going to be a permanent price reduction.
Yes, buy now. This is likely a Holiday promotion, only. I suspect prices will return to list in January, with the occasional lens/camera rebates, as have been sporadic in the past during the course of a year.
In any event, even if the price stays down, I seriously doubt it will be any lower than the current promotional price.
If you are in a position to buy, now would be the time.
Thanks!I really think I'm going to buy one, I have til 12/29 right? Just deciding wether to get it from Ado or Amaz, now that Amaz increased their cashback to 6%. My other dilemma what zoom to get with it the 28-300 (sell the kit lens) or 70-200 f4. Can't afford the 70-200 2.8. But I'll post that on another thread, don't want to threadjack. Thanks again!
Why would Nikon drop the price? How about Canon dumping the 5D mark 2 at a cheap price? Nikon wants the new customers in there camp.The 5D mark 2 has a great reputation and is very tempting. For myself ,all I have ever have shot with is Nikon and I find it very tempting.
Only a few members of the top echelon at Nikon know. However, as early as April, 2012 Nikonians members were waiting for a D600 in the $1,500 to $2,000 price range. Many voiced their disappointment with the higher price as soon as it was announced.