Tue 01-May-12 03:54 AM | edited Tue 01-May-12 04:18 AM by ljordan316
If you own a non-Nikon DX lens and you expect the camera to automatically switch to DX crop when you switch to that lens, think again. I have a Tokina 11-16mm that Ken Rockwell raves about. I have used it with great success with the D300. The jury is still out on using it with the D800. I have to manually switch to DX crop when I switch to it on the D800.
I also discovered today that Adobe Camera RAW 6.7 does not support lens correction profile for the D800/Tokina 11-16mm combination. Bummer!
Update: I may have spoken too soon. I just finished merging 7 HDR frames taken with the D800 and Tokina 11-16mm in FX mode. The details are superb even using f14 and ISO 160. I just do my own crop within the vignette boundary. Great stuff!
Why don't you just put that money towards a 14-24? Yes it is that much better. No you don't need a filter to degrade the image. The D800 is adjustable enough not to need one 99.99% of the time, and you could shoot RAW and adjust post process.
Quote>I just read the specs for the 14-24mm. You cannot put a polarize filer on it. Bummer. I use a polarizer on all of my lens, including the 200-400mm f4.<Quote<<<
What does the Polarizer do for you other than add another piece of glass in front of the lens? I've had several including an expensive 77mm and saw no benefit. I have also removed all "protective" filters from my lens and get sharper photos now.
As for the DX crop, I've found it useful in Event photography. The smaller file size is more than good enough for my customers.
I don't need to shoot DX lens on my D800, I have plenty of Pro Glass.
Well ... there can be uses for filters ... for example .. I find it easier to shoot waterfalls etc with ND filters. How do you achieve stuff like this without this kind of filter ? ... I'm not saying it cant be done, but for me slapping on a filter is just habit.
I know you can do all the color grad stuff in LR or Aperture, but some guys prefer the old school way.
>Why don't you just put that money towards a 14-24? >Yes it is that much better. >No you don't need a filter to degrade the image.
The 14-24mm was my first choice but I changed my mind to the 16-35mm for VR. Also I want to be able to use my 77mm ND2-400 variable filter on water in landscapes.
My wish list is another FX body and 16-35mm lens. But there is no hurry for either before Christmas. Maybe Nikon will add VR to other wide angle zooms soon. They seem to think its not needed but I like VR.
"We don’t see things as they are, we see things as we are" - Anaïs Nin
After a lot of research...and reading Ken Rockwell's discussion about the 14-24mm and the 16-35mm, I too decided the 16-35mm is the right FX wide angle zoom for me. I love the Tokina 11-16mm on my D300, and I need the same FX capability on my D800. The 14-24 produces too much "fish eye" effect than I want. And I get to use a 77mm polarizer filter on it. I take no outside pix without my thin Nikon polarizer. It just delivers better color saturation..and not just in the sky.
I have heard others speak of the banding with a polarizer and wide angle. Almost all of my wide angle shots are HDR. I can turn off frames that cause banding when using CS5 to merge frames. If that works with the Tokina 11-16mmon a D300, I assume it will work on a D800 with a Nikon 16-35mm. I could be wrong...and it will cost me $1200 to find out.
You are correct, the auto DX crop does not work on non-Nikon lens. I have a Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 (from my D70) that I am currently using on my D800 (while I evaluate which lens to buy - by renting a few).
I have set the setting in the D800 to shoot in DX mode when using this Sigma.
For my Sigma 10-20mm the auto crop won't work either.
On a DX body this lens is not the sharpest in the corners but on FX I found it to perform way better than expected. I actually welcomed the fact that auto crop did not work with this lens, I have used it in a pinch in FX mode. It will vignette around from 10 to around 13mm but in return you get a 77mm filter thread.
If you can live without filters the 14-24 is an absolute top performer. I own one and don't use it often enough. I use filters a lot, a considerable part of my work is long daytime exposures. The 14-24 is my only lens that earned a spot in my 'basic kit' that does not have a 77mm filter ring.