Does this new D800 spell death for the D3x ? There has been an onslaught of D3x ads for really low prices over the last few days. I can see how this might be, given the capabilities of the new camera. The D3x was never up to the D3 or D3s in low light capability, and neither is the D800 it seems. But it was a great landscape and studio camera. Can anyone see an advantage the D3x has on the D800 ??
I think the D3X owners all lost about $2,000 in resale value last week. Speed and dual CF is the only real plus to the d3x now. Build, for the vast majority, is a non issue - sensors get outdated way before the camera body of a D700 type camera will fail.
Sun 25-Nov-12 08:04 PM | edited Sun 25-Nov-12 08:06 PM by ghutchins
The D800 sounds like a good upgrade from my D90. I have to take small steps here.
I had a great price ($1,600) on a D800 from an online vendor. When I called they tried to get me to buy extra stuff which I expected. Then they claimed the camera was a Japanese version with the manual and all menus in Japanese and that the in camera menus could not be switched to English.
Have you ever heard of a Japanese only version of a modern Nikon camera?
Its hard for me to believe they were doing a bait and switch because it was so aggravating, I can't imagine anyone actually going for the switch which leaves them with nothing.
>The D3x was an over priced camera from the start...<
Is that so? The Nikon D4 currently sells for $6000. What do you suppose the D4x, Nikons flagship model, will sell for when it is released? The same? Less?
The D4x is likely to have the pixel density of the D5200 over its FX chip area, returning a resolution of 56.4MP. A 50MP back for Hasselblad is a paltry $17,000. A 45MP Phase One back can be yours for the bargain basement price of $23,000. Don't forget to purchase the camera body while you're at it.
Overpriced? Nikon can ask almost any price they wish for a D4x and it'll still be a bargain compared to the cost of comparable MP backs for Medium Format bodies - and you get a free body too.
When the D3x was released its 24MP resolution was within the realm of Medium Format digital (25MP backs) so the above comparison is valid and differs only in that it represents a modern (future, actually) day equivalent.
Overpriced is relative. Compared to a MF digital back of the same period, the D3x could conceivably be considered an absolute steal.
Playing around with the D800 high ISO images that have been put out there I think that it is performing better at high ISO's than my D700 is, especially when you take a D800 full FX shot and down-sample it to 12MP.
I think what some people are doing is zooming in to 100% on these D800 ISO 6400+ shots and directly comparing them to a 100% zoom of D700 ISO 6400+ shots. That's not a valid comparison because if you print both to a 16x20, or down-sample the D800 to the same MP, the noise pattern from D800 will be much tighter due to the higher initial starting resolution.
>Can anyone see an advantage the D3x has on the D800<
1. The D3x battery life slaughters the D800's 2. The D3x grip does not cramp one's fingers (for certain photographers) unlike the D800 3. The pentaprism housing on the D3x does not interfere with the Nikon tilt/shift lenses, unlike the D800 4. The D3x has two CF card slots instead of two mixed card slots
>The D3x was never up to the D3 or D3s in low light capability, and neither is the D800 it seems.<
It may seem that way, but the reality is different. Downsampled to the same resolution for a like for like comparison, the higher resolution cameras tend to win.
Comparing an older generation camera against a state of the art camera seems an odd thing to do to me. All technology is superseded in time. The D800 is no more immune to this truth than the D3x before it.
>But it was a great landscape and studio camera.<
Was? The D3x remains a truly outstanding camera. Period.
The chief advantage my D3x has over the D800E I've purchased is that the big camera fits in my Aquatica housing! For that reason, it's a keeper for me. The D800E will be my go-to camera for above water work but the D3x isn't going anywhere.