I purchased a Adorama refurbished D800 to save some money. I've always wondered why people chose the E model over the non E? For owners who have used both do you see a significant difference in image quality?
I originally bought the D800; I absolutely loved it, but the fact that the E model was just a little sharper-- even if you had to pixel peep to see the difference-- bugged me until I sold it and bought the E. I rarely print larger than 13 x 19, and to be perfectly honest, I can't see any difference between shots I took with the two models-- but I feel better anyway. :~) I have seen side-by-side comparisons, however, where the difference is clear. I guess the bottom line for me is no, I can't see any difference at the sizes I print, but I couldn't go back to the straight 800 either. I've never claimed to be totally logical.
ROTFL! Unless you're shooting in the studio under controlled conditions at close to wide open with top-of-the-line lenses you're never going to see a difference between these two cameras' results. But I guess 200 bucks is worth it to feel your equipment is superior, provided your primary interest is equipment rather than photographs.
Sat 08-Mar-14 04:39 AM | edited Sat 08-Mar-14 08:59 AM by lukaswerth
I bought the D800E when it came out. This was my first DSLR for my expressive photography, and I simply wanted to go all the way. The price difference then was just 200 or 300 €, and I thought I should spend this in order not to regret anything. To be honest, the sample images which Nikon had uploaded showed hardly if any difference at all to me. Dpreview was able to point out some difference, but I really don't think it matters in practice, not in 99% of the cases anyway. I never regretted getting my camera, but if I would want a spare body today, or if, God forbid, something would happen to my cherished camera, I would, seeing also the larger price difference today, get a D800 for a substitute.
Actually, a question one might ask is whether this is not all a marketing scheme by Nikon to make a few bucks more on the D800e which is not, as far as I can see, more expensive to produce. I wonder what would happen if Nikon simply would sell the two cameras for the same price.
No. My story is like David's above. Bought the D800, loved it, felt I might be missing something, so sold it and bought the E. Very little if any difference for me. "Upgrading" was a waste of money (the loss on selling, and the higher price to buy the E).
If I was buying from scratch now, I would buy the D800. However I will stay with the E since that is what I have...unless something else comes along....
For some time I was interested in a camera without an anti-aliasing filter, since it seemed like a good improvement in IQ would result. It did, and now I have a D7100 as well. I never even considered the non-e.
For me the 'E' really shows it advantage in high ISO as you don't need to sharpen to counter the effects of the AA filter. Less sharpening means less noise and artifacts. In most ordinary circumstances you can sharpen the non- E to look exactly like the E version with no notable negative impact on IQ.
I have seen tests online that show under extreme pixel peeping that the E resolves ever so slightly more micro details - but I would think it would not be visible in 99% of applications.
I chose the d800 rather than the the E after some Nikonians advice. I use it for studio work mainly with jewellery and watches, but clothing on the models. So rather than concern myself with possible moire' the D800 seemed safer. I print lots of poster sizes and will do larger, nothing lacking with the D800. Whichever way you'll have a GREAT camera.
I didn't. I bought two D800s. I think Rick Jobson is on target here. And why? Because he carefully considered both cameras and his primary subject matter. The moiré issue with textured fabrics was his choice point.
In my case, I bought my first D800 when you could not get your hands on a D800e and found it entirely satisfactory. I had been very happy with a pair of D700s, but was even happier with the D800.
While I don't disagree with anyone who bought the D800e for the last "inth" of resolution, I don't think the difference is frankly a real issue unless you shoot only with the best primes on a rock steady tripod.
While it doesn't make the choice any easier, EITHER camera is exquisite and represents the epitome of many elements. In my case, I have two of them -- and $600.
I bought the D800 because, frankly, their were no "e's" available at the time and my NAS was hurtin' something bad. I also bought a D4 within the span of a month, so saving a few hundred dollars sounded good to me. I have never regretted it and I am perfectly happy with what I have. I print 40x30 and bigger on occasion and I get "blow your socks off" detail and acuity even at that size.
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Well, I have a D800 and a backup D800E, or other way round! - I have never shot the 'same' image with both bodies so I don't know how they compare.
I shoot all indoor & commercial stuff with the D800 and keep the D800E as the back up. All my personal outdoor stuff is shot with D800E and D800 is the backup.
Having said all that, I have this very subjective feeling that D800E images lend themselves bit more favourably to selective sharpening than the D800 images; it could well be the coping mechanism my brain invented to compensate for extra $400 I spent!!!
I choose the D800E mainly because the only downside was price. Amortizing the price difference over several years and many thousands of images it wasn't that much. The upside was of course possibly sharper images at large apertures. Since I shoot at 5.6, or larger for most of my images it was a no brainer. Do I actually get sharper images?? I have no way of telling, but I like to think I am. If my wife asks me I'll swear I am.
I replaced 2x D700 with 2x D800E soon after D800 / D800E were introduced. I went for "slightly sharper / better image quality" based on specs and reviews without any questions. Is it scientific ? Maybe.. but more like psychological...
Sat 29-Mar-14 04:23 PM | edited Sat 29-Mar-14 04:25 PM by FineArtSnaps
Think the lack of an AA filter's going to make that much difference? The AA filter in the D800 is almost not there. Here's an example of untreated moire in a D800 cut from a 100% view. Again: if you're not in a studio under controlled conditions with top-of-the-line glass you'll never see the difference between the two bodies, though you might see a bit more moire in the E.