help - cf card error - bent pins on reader
took lexar professional 1000x 32gb cf card out of my d800 and put in card reader...felt some resistance....noticed that card not found by computer...took out of reader and put back in camera (big mistake!!)....camera reported error...looked in card reader: bent pins in reader...cannot see bent pins in camera...should i have nikon inspect camera before possibly ruining a very expensive new replacement cf card?
thanks in advance...i love my camera, but this stuff is stressful (and expensive)....
#1. "RE: help - cf card error - bent pins on reader" | In response to Reply # 0danshep Charter MemberSun 15-Sep-13 02:05 AM
Is the card reader new?
Is the card new?
I am going strictly on what I might do. If the card reader was older, I would get a whole new one. Sending in the D800 for inspection will probably cost you maybe $200, but they will clean the camera and test the settings.
If either the card or reader are new, can you get a replacement/refund?
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#2. "RE: help - cf card error - bent pins on reader" | In response to Reply # 0km6xz Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009Sun 15-Sep-13 02:47 AM
Bent pins is a drawback of CF which have the pin sockets so any misalignment damages the pins in readers or more seriously, the camera. The cards are more reliable because they do not have fragile pins but the camera does have exposed pins.
Do you have another card to try in the camera? I would not put that card into either a new reader or the camera again until I determined if the card has a problem that is bending pins.
Look carefully for which pins are bent and inspect the mating area on the card's pin receivers. Maybe there is a little plastic flashing residue from molding, or dirt clogging the mating holes.
Then inspect the camera carefully to see if the same pins are bent. If they are, a trip to Nikon to replace the whole assembly will be needed. If they appear to be OK, try another card known to be good and see if that card is recognized. If so, you are lucky and only have a defective first card and now a broken reader.
I only have 2 CF cards and do not seek any more because I prefer SD because of how rugged the sockets are. I might lose a card or two but camera is not going to be damaged by a defective SD card. Others prefer the CF due to its higher parallel data transfers.
I have had to replace CF sockets in expensive test instruments and would rather not repeat the expense or time delay again. If I had to send the unit in for factory service there would have been a flat rate charge of $1000 so I disassembled the unit and modified the pc board to accept a more readily available socket instead of the custom one made especially for the instrument manufacturer. Good luck!
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#3. "RE: help - cf card error - bent pins on reader" | In response to Reply # 0Sun 15-Sep-13 02:01 PM
thanks for your help guys....the pins in the camera looked OK, so, I tried an old cf card i had laying around and it worked easily in the camera...the real problem was that the card reader was old and low quality...I've just ordered a lexar usb3 reader, which i hope will provide better quality.
with respect to the cf vs sd debate, i have found that the 1000x lexar cf card has very fast transfer rates from the camera buffer into memory as compared to the SD, though others have said that they don't notice much difference. that said, in light of my recent experience, I've just ordered a Sandisk 95mb/s 64gb sd card
the big issue now is getting the data off of the ruined card, which i just sent out through a local service...
#4. "RE: help - cf card error - bent pins on reader" | In response to Reply # 3ajdooley Nikonian since 25th May 2006Sun 15-Sep-13 05:00 PM | edited Sun 15-Sep-13 05:03 PM by ajdooley
Check with Lexar -- I think some of the high end card manufacturers have pretty good service for file recovery too. And of course, they'd know their own product best.
You'll see a real jump in file transfer speed with a USB3 card -- if your computer is USB3 compliant. Since I have moved to a pair of D800 bodies with 75mb RAW files, I think I am going to move from my 4-year old ASUS, which I love, to a new one with USB3 connectivity. I'm getting too old to wait! I want patience, but I want it right now!
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#5. "RE: help - cf card error - bent pins on reader" | In response to Reply # 4Sun 15-Sep-13 05:43 PM
it would have been an excellent idea to contact Lexar, sorry i didn't think of it - but already sent the card off...
i don't know why I've kept that old card reader around, but it's history now....
i have a DIY i7 computer on an asus motherboard with 24 gb of ram, tons of harddrive space, including ssd and usb3 ports (and i've added more usb3 ports as time has passed...as you say, the difference is like night and day. i have a very set routine of backing up files and as the number of d800 raw files seems to increase at an exponential rate, having a fast transfer rate to my removable drives is essential (i always have one complete backup offsite and one onsite - i trade them out weekly). it's well worth the upgrade (as is faster processor and more memory
and speaking of memory...i had 12gb of ram when i first got my d800, and found that the speed i was accustomed to had dropped significantly...a complex edit in nx2 or on cs6 using multiple nik filters got very very slow...adding the memory has improved things substantially - i find that a big image can use up to 14-16gb of memory as i edit (i tend to do a lot of filtering and playing around with my images)....and despite all that horsepower, things can still get slow....
anyway, enjoy your upgrade and thanks for the tip
#6. "RE: help - cf card error - bent pins on reader" | In response to Reply # 0
This might be obvious but in case not -- if that card is "repaired" or anything similar, be very cautious of using it. inspect its holes with a loupe. Or just throw it away.
Often when a card bends pends in a reader, it does so by catching the point of one in the plastic on the leading edge of the card. As the pin bends it will often dig a hole in the plastic, or distort the shape of the hole. Which means it then is all primed to bend the next readers' pins, if not the next time then the 5th or 10th time.
There are nice little shaped cavities leading into each hole. It's not a bad idea to inspect them periodically (like when you have your sensor cleaning loupe out), and any time they look damaged, throw the card away. The card is almost always cheaper than replacing the reader portion of the camera, as it's on the main board in most.
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