I am very new to the forums. This is my first post. I am thinking about purchasing a D800 for wedding photography. My big question is...are the RAW file sizes to big. I know they are about 75MB each. Thats only 400 photos or so with a 32GB card. Sad.
How do the photos look using the other RAW options? I could shoot JPEG, but that limits the editing.
I can't wait to get started.
#1. "RE: D800 for Weddings?" | In response to Reply # 0nwcs Registered since 15th Jan 2006Wed 10-Apr-13 10:14 PM
Welcome to the forums!
It is kinda difficult to answer your questions since there are a lot of factors at work here. If your computer is new enough with enough space then you won't have any appreciable issues with the D800 files. A lot of the consternation with the files is overblown. I use a 3 year old laptop in Lightroom and have no problem. I use lossless compressed format.
You can also affect the size of the files by choosing 12 bit instead of 14 bit color, use lossy compression vs lossless, or you can use one of the built in crop modes. Those all affect file sizes. Outside of the cropping modes there is only a little visual difference (which not everyone will even be able to see) so it depends on your style.
And it also depends on your shot selection whether the cards are sufficient. Since I use lossless compressed I can fit 400 just fine on a 16GB card. Averages 20MB each.
#2. "RE: D800 for Weddings?" | In response to Reply # 0ScottChapin Charter MemberWed 10-Apr-13 11:00 PM
I just used my D800 at a wedding shooting with lossless compression. The average file was 46.23MB. Realistically, I expect to get about 725 on a 32GB card. I noticed the available remaining shots did not decrease proportionally to the number shot. I guesstimated about 550 per card while shooting, but the math says 725 based on 286 photos.
The pictures are amazing. I was nervous about space on the card and uploaded the card to my computer the evening after the reception, but I could have got it all on one 32GB card. I did have a D700 and D300 going as well though, bringing home 1,445 photos.
You can also have overflow go to the second card (there is a CF and an SD slot). For me, that would handle most any wedding.
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#3. "RE: D800 for Weddings?" | In response to Reply # 0mklass Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Wed 10-Apr-13 11:05 PM
I use a D800e in conjunction with a D3s to shoot weddings.
File size and hardware capabilities are one issue. You just need to determine what fits your needs.
From a shooting point of view, you'll love the D800's dynamic range (although the D3s is no slouch). For all those black tuxes and white dresses, it helps.
Since you'll be shooting handheld, keep the shutter speed up. For that reason, I prefer the D3s for poorly lit venues with flash prohibitions. It's more forgiving of a bit of camera movement.
Unless you have clients what want very large prints, you don't need the D800's megapixels. What you can get from a D3s, D700 or (or D4) will get you up to 16x24 with no problem.
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#4. "RE: D800 for Weddings?" | In response to Reply # 3mlcinema Registered since 10th Apr 2013Thu 11-Apr-13 03:25 PM
Thank you all for the quick response.
I guess I should give you some background. I use a 5D MkII for our short movies and I currently use Pentax for my photography. I've always had a soft spot for Pentax. I have an iMac with an SSD and a spinner HD.
Really, I'm just worried about running out of space (quickly) on the cards. Will the D800 record RAW files on the SD card?
I know this is a Nikon site, but what do you all think of the 5D III compared to the D800?
Thank you again.
#6. "RE: D800 for Weddings?" | In response to Reply # 0
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here are 4 useful comparisons.
Regarding the storage on a 32GB card. your estimates are pessimistic from my experience.
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#7. "RE: D800 for Weddings?" | In response to Reply # 0
I use 2 D800e's for weddings. It is simply the best camera I've used for weddings. I have shot with the Fuji S2 Pro, Nikon D1x, Nikon D2x, and Nikon D90. The images from the D800e are extremely good and the camera I think is very forgiven compared to what I'm use to.
I use SD and CF cards, 32 GB and 64 GB in pairs for complete backup in camera. I shot in lossless compressed RAW and have not run out of card space with these cards during a wedding. I average about 1500 shots per wedding. I do switch over to DX format for images that will never go larger than 8 by 10 when I think about it. Lossless compressed RAW is truly lossless compression so you will not see any difference between lossless compressed and non-compressed. My files run a little over 40MB.
Nikon's CLS system for flash is well implemented on the D800.
As far as files, my computer has one SSD at 480GB. I use one catalog per wedding in Lightroom 4 and save that catalog to the project folder. When I'm done, I backup on 3 external drives. If I ever have to pull the images back up in Lightroom 4, it loads just fine from the project folder. The size of the RAW files are not a problem with me and I really like the ability to make 2 or more photographs from the huge files. The cropping capability is a huge plus.
The DR really comes in handy for weddings. I rarely look at my images on the LCD, but now concentrate on the photograph. Not saying you should not think about correct exposure, it just is much easier to shoot with the D800 compared to what I was use to. The camera is amazing IMHO.
I understand the high ISO is not as good as the D3 or D4, but I have not shot with those cameras, but the D800 blows away the D2x and D90. I was use to shooting no higher than ISO 800 with the D2x, but with the D800, ISO 6400 is usable if needed. I now routinely shoot at ISO 2000 and go to 3200 when needed. When printed, I do not see the noise. But you do loss DR and color fidelity at the higher ISO settings (>ISO 800)
#8. "RE: D800 for Weddings?" | In response to Reply # 7Clarktmc Nikonian since 04th Nov 2008Fri 12-Apr-13 03:59 PM
I too have a D800 and D3s. I have all the right lenes, but I really don't know the best lens to use as the go to lens. I was thinking of using the 70-200vr II 2.8 on the D800e as the prime camera and putting the 24-70 vr II 2.8 on the D3s and swapt out all the shots. I do have a 85mm 1.4 G and some other prime lenes.
Any ideals. I have not shot many weddings.
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#9. "RE: D800 for Weddings?" | In response to Reply # 8Craig Bennett Registered since 28th Oct 2012Sat 13-Apr-13 10:12 PM
>I too have a D800 and D3s. I have all the right lenes, but I
>really don't know the best lens to use as the go to lens. I
>was thinking of using the 70-200vr II 2.8 on the D800e as the
>prime camera and putting the 24-70 vr II 2.8 on the D3s and
>swapt out all the shots. I do have a 85mm 1.4 G and some
>other prime lenes.
>Any ideals. I have not shot many weddings.
Hi Tom, You have two great cameras. I think your plan is good, though you might want the 24-70mm on the D800e. Just depends on what you will use for your primary camera. You have a hard choice there!
I use my 70-200 f/2.8 very little during the wedding, unless I am restricted to balcony or far to the rear. I use it a lot for engagement sessions and bridal/groom sessions after the wedding ceremony and never for formals. For general purpose shots at the wedding, I use the 24-85mm f/3.5-4 "kit" lens. My copy is actually pretty sharp. The 24-70 f/2.8 will provide more service for weddings. You 85mm 1.4G is perfect for bridal portraits, but I use mine only as a speciality lens. Never during weddings unless I have a little time with the Bride for portrait style shots. Weddings are just too fast pace to be changing lenses all the time unless you have an assistant with you.
I plan to purchase the 24-70mm f/2.8 and 14-24mm f/2.8 later this year to round out my "holy trinity". But for the size and weight, for me these are not the best for weddings. I think a better plan is the 24-120mm f/4G for weddings as the go to lens.
#12. "RE: D800 for Weddings?" | In response to Reply # 0
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I always shoot Raw Lossless Compressed and the files average about 45MB per image. That works out to 700+ images per 32GB card.
Even the fastest 32GB Memory cards are cheap compared to the camera and lenses.
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