Now this is interesting. I was wondering if Nikon would begin marketing new native N1 lenses to their N1 cameras to take advantage of the 2.7 crop for wildlife/bird shooters. Here is a new patent published today for a Nikon 70-300mm f/4-5.6 N1 lens. Looks like this is on someone's mind at Nikon also.Twenty elements in 13 groups with 6 ED lenses. Hmmmmm.
Yes, but presumably such a lens designed for the CX mount would be substantially smaller than the combination of the FT-1 with a 300-mm F-mount lens. It would also remove the restriction of AF to the middle sensor and the other limitations that the FT-1 imposes.
For an effective 200-800, it will need to have some sort of tripod mount. At the long end of that range, the lightness of the setup is actually a detriment. However, putting up a tripod mount also contradicts the portability of the system. They'd do better putting up some fast wides that didn't break the bank. If they could that for say an effective 24 or even an 18 prime equivalent that was affordable like the 18.5, well, I'd be the first to get one.
If the question is, "what CX lenses would you like to see Nikon make," this hypothetical 70-300 isn't on my list, for the reasons both Armando and Nathan have given. Plus, its front lens element couldn't be all that much smaller than that of the FX 70-300 and still be an f/5.6 lens. But it's interesting to see what Nikon is working on in the labs.
As one of my wise mentors said, just because you can handhold it doesn't mean you should. At super-tele (greater than 400mm), I will brace for good measure. Also, VR whether native CX or via FT-1 is fine in good light. Bracing for very long shots in low light would benefit from the mount.
Thanks for the clarification Armando. When you said "for an effective 200-800" I thought you meant for an effective 200-800 'result' and I now realize you meant for an effective 200-800 'focal length'.
I certainly agree that a support system of some type should always be capable of producing a better image, especially at longer FL's.
For my 'pleasure' in this hobby there are times when I just like to be free to hand hold and still get acceptable results. The V1/V2 FT-1 70-300VR combo gives me that capability with an 800mm FL on walkabouts in the field and I get shots I could not have otherwise.
The picture below (though it is not great) is of a yellow billed cuckoo where I had literally 5 minutes to grab my camera and run out to our tree line and shoot. We have lived in W. PA for 45 years and my wife and I have never seen this bird in the open before. It was working a tree line for wild cherries 250ft behind our house one evening. Without the V1/70-300mm combo handheld I would not have got this picture ... or a picture of the pair mating up in the tree.
I like having a combo that allows me to gets shots that I otherwise would have missed. I keep my D800 with my 105VR at the ready for quick bug macros around our yard and the V1 combo for quick bird shots. When I have the time and subject matter, I use support systems regardless of the FL.
Armando I agree that with the numerous special glass and fluorite elements this lens is going to be very expensive, possible approaching some of the exotic lenses in price. Probably way beyond my budget.
For me, the best things about the V1/70-300 combo are the 'reach', VR stability and the high electronic/silent shutter rate.
This bird was hopping around from tree to tree and was about 5-10 feet inside the tree line with only occasional casts of light getting in. I saw it lift off a branch and I held down the shutter release. This image was the best of the sequence due to the tail spread and rather clear 'eye' focus...all things considered. I actually had to back off the FL a little because I couldn't originally find the bird in the dark shade so I zoomed out for more light and wider FOV just before it too off.
Now if the V3, or whatever they call it, just gets better ISO performance, more MP's and stays with the same battery as the V1, I will be a happy camper as I wait in line.
Dan (Nikon D800,V2,Sony HX400V,Lumix ZS40) "I don't read, I just look at pictures" - Andy Warhol
I know what you mean. This Cooper's hawk landed near my feeders and the closest thing at hand was my N1 V1 fitted with the FT-1 and my Nikon DX 18-200mm. I shot a few frames with the electronic shutter and since the hawk was still perched, I ran for my D600 which had the 70-200mm f2.8/TC20E III attached. By the time I got back the branch was vacant. Not the best IQ but, this type of opportunity does not happen very often. First time in my 22 years here. I'm glad the rig was near by and my reach was an effective 540mm. ISO 1400; f5.6; 1/250s
Sat 07-Dec-13 12:31 PM | edited Sat 07-Dec-13 12:32 PM by walk43
Thanks Christian...I absolutely love the Coopers with the feathers blowing (or being displayed). When I first started taking pictures of birds, I was happy to get a good shot of a bird sitting and having good feather detail. Then... after a while... I satisfied that 'need' and now really appreciate the action shots (or position variations)so much more. I see in your gallery you must also like the action shots when 'birding' and you have some really nice shots. Keep up the good work!
Dan (Nikon D800,V2,Sony HX400V,Lumix ZS40) "I don't read, I just look at pictures" - Andy Warhol
Per nikon rumors....nikon is announcing this lens mid March. If this is true and the lens is reasonably priced, I would get one. My recent experiences with the AW1 at 15 fps would make this combo a killer bird system.
Well we should know this week. Going to be very interesting!
I do want to get a 300mm with VR sharper than the 70-300/FT-1 combo I have been using. Personally I had also been saving for an FX 300mm f/4 VR for use on FX, DX, and CX so we may be facing a hard decision, depending on pricing and quality!
I got myself on my dealers list for this lens, so I expect I'll be amongst the first locally with it. Nikon Canada price is an extra hundred, so $1099 here. I see Nikon Rumors predicting April 17th availability. My dealer hadn't any inkling yet when I talked to them about availability.
I'm not familiar with a 20/60 LPM MTF chart so hard to say what that is telling us so far. I found the low-res Nikon sample photos on Nikon Canada but to tell the truth they didn't look excellent.
Personally the lens price is on the low end of what I feared so I'm OK with it considering Super-ED glass and Nano-coating. That's not a lot of dough assuming we can eke out some sharpness and the fact I expect I will use it a lot. Typically, I schlepp around one or two big FX bodies and my 500 f/4 VR plus 1.4/1.7 teleconverters all morning, and then if doing any afternoon hiking I'll tend to strap on my V1, FT-1, and FX 70-300 currently. So I expect to get some decent use out of the lens, and I expect to continue to own the Nikon 1 system for a long time and this lens will still be in use when I get a V5 and V7
I never did get a V2 camera, skipped a generation, and plan to get a V3 kit a month or two after digesting this lens purchase. The camera looks very promising and for me, I get the 1 system, I love a fast everything camera. I also do as much video as time permits and hope to be doing a lot of video filming this year with my 1-system, my FX cams, and maybe a slider (love the slider look).
I'm DX-less currently as the combination of a D800E and Nikon 1 killed my need for DX, but I still might plan re-acquiring a DX camera and perhaps a medium telephoto 300 f/4 VR. My dream lens is the patented FX 50-300 f/2.8-4 but it may be years before we ever see the light of day on that one. So it looks like this year is my Nikon 1 year at least for now. I can tell you this, if the "D400" had all the DNA of the Nikon 1 system I'd move mountains to get it, but if it's a conventional D400 I wouldn't rush to get it and may even prefer a D7200. Anyhow looks like events are heading me further down the Nikon 1 path and wait and see on the DX path.
I looked at the MTF chart on the Nikon website. It looks very good on the short end but shows some loss at 300mm . It is typical of almost all zoom tele lenses to show a loss of resolution at the long end, but how much this lens will have in actual is something I can't say.
It's (I think) astigmatism when the main 60 LPM resolution line remains sharp across the frame at the tele end, but the Meridonal line is the one that drops off. This has a specific meaning that some will be able to predict from. I'll post back if I come across a better meaning. I believe one impact is the bokeh in the corners will not be as nice at full zoom.
Also MTF charts are normally 10/30 LPM and this chart is 20/60 LPM which has some significance as well, but not sure what.
Dimension comparison for those of us currently using the FX 70-300:
Nikon 1 70-300: Minimum Focus Distance: 3.3 ft. (1.0 m) (at 70 mm focal length), 5.2 ft. (1.6 m) (at 300mm focal length) Filter Size: 62mm Approx. Dimensions (Diameter x Length): 2.8 in. (73 mm) x 4.2 in. (108 mm) Approx. Weight 19.4 oz.: (550 g)
FX Nikon 70-300: Minimum Focus Distance 4.9 ft. (1.5m) Filter Size 67mm Approx. Dimensions 80 x 143.5mm (Diameter x Length) Approx. Weight 745g
The Nikon 1 70-300 is 1/4" smaller diameter, 1.4" shorter length (at 70mm), and .43 of a pound lighter.
Factor in the FT-1 figures: Dimensions - Approx. 61.5 mm diameter (excluding projections) x 42.5 mm Weight - Approx. 150 g/5.3 oz and the Nikon 1 70-300 is a full 3" shorter length (at 70mm), and .76 of a pound lighter.
Counting the addition of native Nikon-1 focal point selection capability (as opposed to centre-point only), Nano-coating, and Super-ED glass (present only on the 200mm f/2 and 80-400mm VRII up until now) and an interesting package,
Focus speed and accuracy and sharpness still need to be evaluated of course.
Tue 15-Apr-14 05:07 PM | edited Wed 16-Apr-14 11:30 AM by stappy
NikonRumors says the V3 will be available on 17 April but that the 70-300 will not ship until June. However, Amazon has both listed as going to be released on 17 April. Keep in mind, B&H is closed for holidays and will not reopen until 24 April. Maybe that is were you're getting the postponed date.
Edit: on 16 April Amazon has updated the release date of the 70-300 to 24 April; the V3 remains as 17 April.