I just ordered one and wonder what experience and settings others have used? Primarily I will be using it to extend my uninterrupted Video time with the D800 and V1 cameras.
It can be used with external 12-18 volt power. The internal "battery of choice" is supposed to only last 50 minutes or more. For this reason I ordered a 1.3 watt SSD disk.
A 256GB disk is supposed to hold about 25 minutes of uncompressed HD1080P 30fps Video. I am think of using Pro Res 422 instead. I understand that the recorder will create MOV files and that only the compression is different? Will they be useable like the ones I get on the Cameras memory card, or will it require special software etc.?
Hi Roger and Rob, Providing that a Windows 7 system has Apple's Quicktime installed, the codec that is a part of that installation will be used by Premiere Pro to support the IMPORT of ProRes and DNxHD files.
However, there is no codec, of which I am aware, that allows the EXPORT from any of the Adobe video-related applications, of files in any of those formats.
As Roger is aware, I use an Atomos Ninja2, with my D800 and D800E, and rely upon Adobe's "Creative Cloud" applications running under Windows 7-64 for all my stills and video editing.
I have Adobe Premier 5 but do not want to take the time to learn it. If Cyberlink Power Director or Sony Vegas Pro 10 do not work I will be forced to use it. My Shuttle II and OCZ 256GB SATA III SSD card are both due to arrive around the 19th of February.
Fri 15-Feb-13 03:37 AM | edited Fri 15-Feb-13 03:42 AM by Robman3
Thanks for the compliments folks. I tend to look at what was not done up to my standards but a drummer berated me a long time ago, if the audience likes it, shut up and don't tell them why you feel it could have been better.
This label was having an anniversary concert.
I did a previous concert stills in 2010, with an actual lighting director, a director and five cameras (Video) one RED. That project ended up using a lot of my stills for cover art, and a slide show on the release all of which led to this gig.
Note, this took a good 8 months to glean.
After the concert, it evolved into an anthology, and a trailer which you saw.
The label published it to Vimeo not me.
The Anthology was my idea (lesson: never add work to a bid after the fact) which used the labels CD art, tracks and etc. that required days of mining their archive data CDs, and my past skills writing ad copy and stuff came into play for title approaches. I then hired narrators (two of the performers) while the label chief, wrote the narration at my insistence, and the Bassist Eduardo and I recorded and mixed those sessions.
The concert was supposed to be a simple music CD, so the engineer rolled in his 48 track Pro Tools rig and they overlooked walk up, room mic etc. not realizing video shouldn't have been an afterthought.
I did the best I could with the mastered CD tracks, so I re-sampled to 48k the master tracks, the MD was loathe for me to remix everything. Then, had an engineer I do sessions with re-master the on camera and previous master track CD parts which is apparent upon viewing the actual DVD although it works well all things considered.
Two stills shooters, me on the D3S, 70-200 f/2.8. tripod and hand held, auto ISO, Hi-7 top end, max shutter speed, mostly manual, and an intern from Santa Barbara High on my old D90 also auto, max 6400 between my 50mm f1.4 and 85mm f1/8.
Four camera operators, one on my D7K, roaming on stage (a sharp pro from London) 24-70 f/2.8, my nephew on his D7k (tripod) using the 18-200 f/3.5 to 5.6 (a mistake, too much recalculation from zoom on exposure), another press guy pro on a T2I (tripod) with a 400mm at the sound board, and one other person who shoots a lot of stills doing video with the 24-70 f/2.8 Canon MK2 (tripod) for the very first time.
We had fire marshal rules of where we were able to set up and did the best we could.
In post, the footage has been cleaned up and retooled for obvious issues that might have been avoided had I made a demand to run show lights before the set began, the consequences of not doing that are apparent depending on which take I was able to use.
Canons BTW in a darkened theater, seem to have an reddish overcast, the D7K in the audience, was great at mid distance, but blown out over and under that, the D7K onstage had the best DR of the lot but it was in the lights.
We had agreed pre show (not show lights) to use ISO 800 on the Canons and on the D7Ks, that based upon our eyes, all four of us, and the adage that Perrone uses your eyes will lie is true. Ultimately, the D7Ks were adjusted, the Canons stayed the same.
When I do this again, we will get clips into Premiere backstage done under show lights to double check each camera on the scopes, lesson learned.
In the case of the solo guitar player, he decided to re-cut his pieces in a studio, ostensibly over a bad line (60hz hum) which the house could not isolate during sound check. He and the MD may have cut out four or eight bars in the (2nd) Chulita song, that was a real challenge up until the sax solo which tracked perfectly after that.
I used adobe Audition to locate that noise and eliminated it and it's lower harmonic from the original take so we dumped his revision (CD version). There was no way Plural Eyes could even come close.
I am no a fan of comps, neither is my engineer, (pet peeve) so that move by the artist was a PITA but as a musician I was able to locate timing hits from percussion, guitar riffs etc. that are actually being played.
So the mics, I'd have to check footage to be exact.
Recorder, not sure what his convertor is, guess, DigiDesign.
After seeing Rob's work. I am embarrassed to show mine at this time. I choose a Vimeo account over YouTube for a number of small reasons. I did a lot of research before choosing. It has been over a year and I cannot say what the advantages are except that I have had no complaints at all. (It works for me).
This is the latest reply in the Black Magic Forum:
"You don't have an MPEG-4 recording option, just ProResHQ, DNxHD220 and Uncompressed".
Evidently the D800 output to Flash Card is MPEG-4 (MOV). This could be a deal breaker for me. I can currently import mpg, mpeg, mpe, dat, avi,wmv,mov,vob,vro,asf,dvr-ms,wtv,mod,mp4,m2t,mts,3g23gp,tod,tpd,and ts The main reason I ordered the Shuttle II is to improve work flow not to complicate it. Most of my (Home Movie quality) Video work is for the Church and it is usually displayed on TVs and sometimes computer monitors. My current work flow is to take 3-5 segments of one hour plus Service and drop the MOV files on a Cyberlink Power Director 10 timeline. I then click "Create Disc", type in the title, drop in a DVD, click "Burn", select two copies. The whole process including uploading from Flash card to computer takes less than two hours and most of it is unattended.
FWIW, I chose Vimeo over a year ago for two reasons. I do not know if they are still valid, but Vimeo has served me well enough that I renewed my subscription ($60pa, for which I have a 5GB per week space allowance). a) No 15 minute limit b) I could upload 1080p/30 material.
I regularly upload videos of about 1h4m duration, of entire amateur ice hockey games for use by the players for "play analysis". In 2011 I couldn't do that with YouTube.
My new Shuttle II and 256GB SSD came yesterday! I tested in my Den and they both work. I can record to my internal card for 20 minutes at the same time. I can also just start a recording If I record DNxHD 220 I can play back the MOV files with Apple Quicktime. They require almost 1.5GB of disc space per minute (220MBs) I can also play and edit them in CyberLink Power Director 10. After downloading the trial AVID program, I decided not to use that as I do not have a year to learn it.
The recorder mounting plate would not even work for my application. Instead I stuck 4 Scotch Velcro fasteners to my mounting platform and to the top of the HyperDeck. Yes, it is mounted upside down.
Fri 22-Feb-13 05:17 AM | edited Fri 22-Feb-13 02:01 PM by RRRoger
I have CS5 Master Suite but seldom use Premier or Photo Shop. They have become much more intuitive than AVID Media Composer. I mostly use Power Dirctor because it is faster (in every way), I can start burning a DVD before AVID loads the files. This CyberLink product also has a "make it fit" for DVDs. I will also occasionally be using it to burn Blue Rays with the movies produced from the DNxHD220 files.
This old SLIK Tripod has slots on the legs that can be used to mount accessories. I drilled and tapped a bracket above it to give the "platform" more stability. It is supported on both ends and can hold much more weight (coffee cup, batteries, etc.). I have already ordered an Anker 10,000 mAh MultiVoltage External Battery to extend my record time in the field.
I am doing some more testing this morning while waiting for it to warm up outside. It is now 8 AM and 33 degrees here in Prunedale CA.
The internal card is shutting off the in-camera recording at 20 minutes per usual. Unfortunetly the external recorder is shutting off at the same time. This defeats my main reason for buying the Shuttle (unattended 70 minute recordings). So, concurrent backup is limited to 20 minute segments.
Roger, there's a little bell ringing in the back of my mind that is telling me there could be a quality degradation of the HDMI output while internal recording is done simultaneously. If so, it seems likely that the bit-depth of the HDMI output is reduced to the same as that used for the internal recordings (8-bits).
I'll try to find time to do some research on this, but you'll have no such problem when NOT recording internally while recording externally.
>Roger, there's a little bell ringing in the back of my mind >that is telling me there could be a quality degradation of the >HDMI output while internal recording is done simultaneously. >If so, it seems likely that the bit-depth of the HDMI output >is reduced to the same as that used for the internal >recordings (8-bits). > >I'll try to find time to do some research on this, but you'll >have no such problem when NOT recording internally while >recording externally. > >Pete > > At this time I cannot tell about the bit rate but the DNxHD220 recording is far superior to the one on the CF card when recorded at the same time.
That does not help me when I want to back up a recording of over 20 minutes. At this time, I am confident enough to record to the Shuttle only next Sunday. But the external shuttle battery will not be here tell next week so I may have to postpone that if I cannot record long enough with the internal one. I am going to unplug the AC power and test that next.
>Hello Roger, > 1.>The newest version software offers a FAT 32 format as well as >the MAC file system. > 2.>The older version required bridging software such as MAC Drive >for use on a W7 Pro platform so that is a plus. > 3.>I wish (asked) BMD to allow standard 2.5 7200 RPM HDs like the >Ninja because of costs and if static during the shoot, allow >way more recording time but I digress. > 4.>Inputs/outputs on the HD2 are strictly an HDMI or SDI >connector, not a USB. > 5.>USB is for software to HD2 firmware use only, that (data >transfer) requires a separate dock which can be found at Fry's >or New Egg, Tiger Direct etc. > 6.>(Ask Perrone in a PM) but Pro Res will not work in a Window >based software and I believe it is also dated versus cutting >with AVID's codec (DNxHD), so Premiere Pro, AVID, Sony etc. > >The .mov files will open in programs other than Apple or can >be converted to .avi etc. > >If I am wrong, someone will let me know. > >Thanks, > >Rob > > > > > 1.>Not FAT32 but exFAT which can handle much larger files and disc. 2. I used MacDrive to format my SSD to the Apple file system but may try exFAT also. 3.Even 15000 rpm Hard Drives are too slow for the Shuttle. 4. I think even USB3 would be uselessly slow. The USB2 port is fast enough for firmware 5. I use a little USB3 interface thingy to plug right into 3 different kinds of Hard Drive to read/write them. 6. I am successfully using DNxHD220 with my Windows programs. The generated MOV files can be used with CyberLink Power Director 10
> >>4. I think even USB3 would be uselessly slow. >> > >My experience has been that ther is little performance >difference between USB3 and internal SATA drives. > >Barry >http://art2printimages.com >
4. Yes faster than some, slower than others. Both seem to be too slow for recording even 220MBs from HyperDeck. I have a 7200 RPM Barracuda 1.5TB SATA drive mounted to my USB3 port device right now. It has been reformatted exFAT and is only transfering up to 35MBs.
Roger, Please be careful not to confuse Mb/sec with MB/sec. The data rate used for DNxHD220 is 220Mb/sec, ***NOT*** 220MB/sec. --- I just did a quick series of tests using a 1.5GB file to determine transfer rates between the various devices that come into play when I am messing around with video. They might be of general interest. Drive C: is a 480GB SSD with a 6Gb/sec SATA-III interface. It is a SanDisk SDSSDX48 Drive D: is a 4-drive RAID 5 array using 1TB WD1002FBYS-0 3Gb/sec SATA-II drives. I do have the drives' write caches enabled, as I have the system on a UPS which maintains the workstation, monitor, Ethernet switches and external USB3 hubs. The drive of the Ninja2 is a 240GB SSD with a 6Gb/sec SATA-III interface. It is an Intel SSDDSC2CW240A3 and is interfaced to my workstation using the USB3 “dock” which is part of the Ninja kit. Note that I re-booted the workstation immediately before each test, so as to eliminate caching effects. The workstation has 32GB of memory, so could easily cache the entire test file. 1. Drive D to Ninja: 56-70MB/sec 2. Ninja to drive D: 98-106MB/sec 3. Ninja to Ninja: 38-42MB/sec 4. Drive C to Ninja: 72-76MB/sec 5. Drive C to Drive C: 318-414MB/sec 6. Ninja to drive C: 104-118MB/sec
My best quality 1080P at 30fps recordings use up aprox. 158,265 KB per minute. (3.01GB/20) Thats only 2.64 MBs
while the Shuttle using DNxHD220 mode take up aprox.1,500,000 KB per minute (1.5GB) That is only aprox 25 MBs which looks pretty close to 220 Mp/second.
I am about to come to the end of an internal D800 battery test. I have been recording with the Shuttle since 3:12 and the red battery is being displayed in the LCD. It is now 5:14 and it just shut down, over two hours later. I intended to unplug the shuttle to test it's battery and will do that next.
2.02 hours and 213,497,017 KB = 203 GB and 1.66 GB per minute
>I just looked it up and it looks like we byte 8 bits per >byte. > > 8 bits = 1 byte > 1000 bytes = 8 kilobits (kb) = 1 Kilobyte (KB) > 1000 Kilobytes (KB) = 8 megabits (Mb) = 1 Megabyte (MB) > > >so, 220Mbs is only 27.5 MBs? > >My best quality 1080P at 30fps recordings use up aprox. >158,265 KB per minute. (3.01GB/20) >Thats only 2.64 MBs > >while the Shuttle using DNxHD220 mode take up aprox.1,500,000 >KB per minute (1.5GB) >That is only aprox 25 MBs which looks pretty close to 220 >Mp/second. > > >I am about to come to the end of an internal D800 battery >test. >I have been recording with the Shuttle since 3:12 >and the red battery is being displayed in the LCD. >It is now 5:14 and it just shut down, over two hours later. >I intended to unplug the shuttle to test it's battery and will >do that next. > >2.02 hours and 213,497,017 KB = 203 GB and 1.66 GB per minute > >
Hi Roger, In broad terms, you're right - and your numbers are entirely adequate for this type of conversation. If I were to be pedantic, I'd point out that (in technical-speak) 1K is actually 1024 bytes (i.e., 2^10), 1MB is actually 1,048,576 bytes, 1GB is actually 1,073,741,824 bytes and 1TB is actually 1,099,511,627,776 bytes!
Whether 1GB refers to 10^9 bytes or 2^30 bytes is often a challenge to the reader. In "marketing-speak", 1GB generally refers to 10^9 bytes and 1TB refers to 10^12 bytes. There is approximately a 7.4% difference at 1GB and 10% difference at 1TB. As a simple illustration of this "inaccuracy", disk drive capacities are usually (always?) expressed in terms of GB or TB using the decimal-based definitions as that yeilds bigger numbers! (Selling vs buying.)
Do I understand correctly that the Hyperdeck battery lasted for just over 2 hours of recording at 220Mb/sec - which would be adequate for your primary purpose? You might want to repeat the test using a lower data rate for the recording. IMHO, the choice of 220Mb/sec recording is probably a major overkill for your primary application. However, I will freely admit that I DO EXACTLY the same thing. I usually record at the highest quality available - and say "to heck" with the humongous file sizes. At least, that's what I say now, when I have tens of TB space left on my NAS servers. My attitude might change in time...
>Hi Roger, > >Do I understand correctly that the Hyperdeck battery lasted >for just over 2 hours of recording at 220Mb/sec - which would >be adequate for your primary purpose? You might want to >repeat the test using a lower data rate for the recording. >IMHO, the choice of 220Mb/sec recording is probably a major >overkill for your primary application. However, I will freely >admit that I DO EXACTLY the same thing. I usually record at >the highest quality available - and say "to heck" >with the humongous file sizes. At least, that's what I say >now, when I have tens of TB space left on my NAS servers. My >attitude might change in time... > >All the very best, > >Pete > >No
The HyperDeck battery only last 56 minutes. The 256 GB disc used 96 GB of space during that time. I doubt if it would make any difference whether I recorded uncompressed or at the highest compression except for file size.
The camera battery lasted just over two hours when I recorded with the Shuttle plugged to an external power source. So the new power pack will easily give me two hours uninterrupted recording at DNxHD 220.
It's great to hear that the BM Shuttle works fine with the D800.
I do have a question about the dual recording, when you record on both the D800 and the BM Shuttle, does it record at 1080p because I always thought that D800 switches the HDMI OUT to 720p when recording internally? (That's what it does when my monitor is attached).
I have the Ninja 2, which is built like a rock but is obviously far more expensive than the Shuttle.
Sun 24-Feb-13 03:50 AM | edited Sun 24-Feb-13 03:52 AM by RRRoger
My Camax H056 Monitor does flash different resolution numbers on its screen sometimes when first starting up. I think that has to do with the D800 Auto HDMI setting. But My D800 did not switch to 720 internally nor "out" the HDMI port. Both were recorded at 1080 like I had the camera Video recording set for.
If that is so, then the Shuttle can do more than the Ninja 2, which is very impressive given its price point! Just to note, the camera change to 720p on the resolution of the HDMI out when recording internally (the camera still records at 1080p).
Peter, do you not set your HDMI OUT to AUTO when using your Ninja? I only ask as Atomos specifically states that this needs to be set to enable a progressive signal.
I found out today that the exFAT file system works really well with Win7, SSD drives, CyberLink, and the Shuttle II. (goodbye to my trial version of MacDrive)
I upgraded to PowerDirector 11 and it handles any MOV files very fast. It can also handle 4K Resolution(1 ratio 4096 x 2304/ 4:3 ratio 4096 x 3072) and 2K Resolution (1 ratio 2048 x 1152/ 4:3 ratio 2048 x 1536)
Next week I am looking forward to recording the Church Service uninterrupted when my Ankler battery pack arrives.
My replacement Shuttle II arrived yesterday. The first one had a faulty record button.
I tried the new one with my new D7100 It is very responsive and works great. The D7100 however is outputing the camera info to both the recorder and monitor. These Videos are worthless except for review. How do I get what I consider "clean" HDMI out.
I used the D800, Shuttle II, Anker battery pack, and Camax monitor yesterday. Luckily I recorded to both the internal 1000x CF card and Shuttle. So far the external recording using ProRes has not been usefull. I already burned the DVDs for Curch use from the flash card.
CyberLink PowerDirector 11 could not import the ProRes file. error: too many channels?
VLC Player worked and the Video was very high quality. Why was the recording 1080i at 60fps? The camera was set for 1080P at 30fps. but, I did shoot manual at 60fps?
I then tried Sony Pro Suite 12. After 10 hours it was 56% loading the file. I have the same performance issue with AVID. I am currently installing Adobe CS5 Master Suite in WIN 8 When as expected that does not work, I will switch to recording in AVID DNxHD 220 and test again.
All I am hoping for is a slightly better quality uninterrupted one hour + recording.
Roger, All you probably need to do is to install the free (Windows version) of the Quicktime application from Apple. The codec that gets installed with Quicktime is used by Adobe Premiere Pro to allow ProRes files to be imported (but not Exported).
I use CS6, but the above may well also work for CS5.
There's always the option of loading the Cineform codec...
I was able to record 720P for two hours unattended to DNxHD before the SSD filled with 214GB.
I already have Quicktime 7.7.3 installed It will not open ProRes nor DNxHD QT And PowerDirector still insist that they are recorded at 60fps which was the shutter speed. CS5 still does not recognize the file format even after updating. I tried CineForm next to no avail.
Both type Videos run fine in VLC so I assume the correct codex is somewhere in my computer.
Roger, Please either send me some sample video files attached to (separate) e-mail messages (they'll have to be under 16MB, maybe even a little smaller, so the clips will be very short) or use s service like YouSendit or DropBox.
I'd like to prove that I can handle the files with CS6 + Quicktime codec.
Tue 26-Mar-13 04:17 AM | edited Tue 26-Mar-13 04:52 PM by RRRoger
Pete, I did not choose to upgrade from CS5 because I hardly ever use it.
Rob, The PowerDirector error message said that, but it was not necessarily so. I have no other indication that the external DnxHD or ProRes recordings are actually 1080i at 60fps, or that the Camera HDMI output is that when set for 1080P at 30fps.
And, now PowerDirector is opening them too but plays the Video portion in slooow motion even though the sound is normal. However, the conversion to DVD for TV produces a normal disc.
Tue 26-Mar-13 09:58 AM | edited Tue 26-Mar-13 11:11 AM by barrywesthead
G-Spot may help resolve some of your questions. It’s freeware for examining the exact codec info of a video clip as well as identifying the details and whereabouts of all the codecs on your computer. It will list the properties of a video clip and can also tell you where each codec on your computer is located, i.e. the file in which the codec resides.
Not bad for analising in-camera video clips, but G-Spot gives my little if any usefull information from ProRes or DNxHD files.
In my search MediaInfo came up also and I downloaded the WIN 64 bit version.
It shows my ProRes 720P file as: video stream: 220Mbs, 1248/702 (16to9) at 59.940 fps. 4:2:2, Bits/(Pixel*Frame) 4.186 audio stream: 48.0 Khz, 24 bits, 16 channels, PCM (Big/Unsigned)
It displays my DNxHD 720P file as: video stream: 220 Mps, 1280/720 (16to9)at 50.940 fps, 4:2:2, 10 bits audio stream: 48.0 Khz, 24 bits, 16 channels, PCM (Big/Unsigned)
Needless to say, I will be using the DNxHD format from now on, but I will probably switch back to 1080P at 30fps in camera because there is no apparent difference in file size or processing speed and I want to check out the files with MediaInfo http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
I just reset my D800 to HDMI output = Auto and to record with 1080P at 30 fps
MediaInfo shows: Complete name : N:\Capture0000.mov Format : QuickTime Format/Info : Original Apple specifications File size : 1.53 GiB Duration : 55s 322ms Overall bit rate mode : Constant Overall bit rate : 237 Mbps Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-26 15:40:58 Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-26 15:40:58 Writing library : Apple QuickTime
Video ID : 1 Format : VC-3 Codec ID : AVdn Codec ID/Info : Avid Codec ID/Hint : DNxHD Duration : 55s 322ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 220 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 1 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 29.970 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 Bit depth : 10 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 3.540 Stream size : 1.42 GiB (93%) Language : English Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-26 15:40:58 Tagged date : UTC 2013-03-26 15:40:58
The problems however persist. I cannot open the file with Apple Quicktime. VLC player shows the video but no sound Power Direct has sound but no Video.
Wed 27-Mar-13 01:46 AM | edited Wed 27-Mar-13 03:59 AM by RRRoger
I just tested with two more cameras. There seems to be no way to get "clean" HDMI output from the V1,
but I also nearly gave up on the new D7100 I just now found the "trick" by hitting the info button just to see what was displayed in Video mode. That removed all the camera information from the external monitor and put it on the camera LCD. If you push the button enough times, it will cycle thru the displays. What you get on the external monitor is what is recorded. This works the same in DX or 1/3 crop.
This sure is getting to be fun. I just tried the D600, it is working the same way as the D7100.
Because the Shuttle II is realatively cheap and can record continuously for over one hour, this product appeals to me as a part time Pro and to Amature Photographers.
It seems to me that if they were to add a 5th codec it would boost sales considerably.
My current highest use for output is BlueRay disc. This only requires a bit rate of 40 Mbps. So, I would choose DNxHD 40 (or slightly more) if available. This would allow considerable more footage per SSD and would require a lot less storage space for original files.
We currently do not offer any ability to record DNxHD compressions beyond the 220x variety. We do have this logged as a feature request, and I can add a +1 to the request. We're not sure if or when we might be able to see this implemented, but we are aware of it's on many wish lists!
My guess is that BM cannot add the extra codec because the Shuttle and even the regular deck lack the necessary processing power.
I have picked up a Atomos Ninja II. It includes a 480x800 monitor that I use for focus peaking while recording. It includes ProRes LT that I have so far used to produce footage that I cannot tell the difference from DNxHD 220. According to MediaInfo the bit rate is close to 88 Mbps. 69 minutes takes up 43 GigaBytes of space instead of nearly three times as much. I will be recording with DNxHD 36 next time. The two (Sony compatable) battery slots are external and can last for days instead of 50-70 minutes. It can use "cheap" 2.5" Hard Drives or a SSD (Solid State Drive).
So far I am sure the unit is well worth more than twice as much as the Shuttle which will be for sale soon.
>Hi Roger, > >The Ninja 2 also dropped in price from $999 (US). > >New Egg had a one day sale on a Samsung 1 TB SSD for $580, but >if one is not bouncing around, then what NOT use an >inexpensive 2 1/2" drive. > >Something I suggested to BMD last year. > >Thanks! > >RM
B&H Photo has the Ninja II for $695 with free shipping The 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gbps HD for $79
Hi Roger, I'm glad the Ninja is working out well for you.
FYI, I have yet to shoot anything other than tests with the Samurai Blade - but the results look pretty good and the display is VERY nice... As you know, I have a particular project in mind for the Blade, but so far, it's only in my mind! I think I had more spare time BEFORE I retired!
There is a direct and linear relationship between how much data is being fed in, and the data rate selected.
If you select DNxHD 175 which is designed for 1080/24p and then feed it 30p, it will jump to 220.
>I noticed on my chart (above) that DNxHD 36 at 29.97 fps is >not listed >but DNxHD 45 is and it records at the 45 Mbps that I got. > Could it be that they use the same codec? > >I am wondering what I will get if I try using a D5300 at 60 >fps?