Hello, all. This is really a continuation of a thread I originally put under the D600 forum but it eventually focused more on the D7000 (my current camera) and the D7100. I've decided not to upgrade to either the D800 or D600. However, the D7100 is now really tempting me after reading the comments in my previous thread, as well as detailed reviews found at photographylife.com and elsewhere. So, I was wondering, what prompted previous owners of the D7000 to take the plunge and buy the D7100?
For me, it was largely the improved AF. I used my D7000 as a second body when shooting sports, which meant I was often grabbing it at the last second to frame and capture a shot as play neared me. The sluggish AF of the D7000 compared to my main body (a D3) frustrated me. I haven't yet had a chance to use the D7100 in the same way (but will in a couple of weeks). Side-by-side testing leads me to believe the difference in AF will be significant for me.
Some of the other refinements in the D7100, such as the locking mode dial, brighter LCD (handy for daytime shooting) and better bracketing capability appeal to me, but they would not by themselves have induced me to upgrade were it not for the improved AF.
In addition to the previous responders input I would add brighter, higher resolution LCD and brighter OLED display of parameters in the viewfinder. It makes the camers more useable in bright sunlight for me.
Yeah, pretty much all of the above. It also didn't really cost all that much to upgrade as I got a pretty good return when I sold my D7000.
For the D7200 (or whatever they call the next one), I'd love to see them add a panorama mode. In addition to a D7100, my dad also has a Sony NEX-7 that he uses when he wants something lighter weight that still takes great photos (it uses the same sensor the D7100 uses). That camera has a built-in panorama mode that gives great results. My only options for panoramas are to use my iPhone 4S (which actually takes pretty good pictures for what it is) or take a set of photos on my D7100 and try to stitch them together after the fact (I just don't have the time or skills with the image processing tools to do that).
I shot the D7000 for about 28 months before picking up my D7100 in mid April. I made the move for the pixel count, better high ISO performance, better Dynamic range. I appreciated that the batteries were forward compatible. As a wildlife shooter, I will always upgrade for these three variables. Turbo
It all depends on what you shoot as to which has advantages that help you. For sports, the D7100 clearly has a better AF speed and it has more cropping options that is useful in sports. I am puzzled by the comments saying the D7100 had better dynamic range. The D7000 is still the best performing dx camera in regard with more recoverable detail so there are some subjects which will benefit from the D7000 sensor which is in rare company in low ISO dynamic range. The Sony sensor is quite good in that regard in lack of banding and artifacts. For general shooting, a little action, a little travel, a bit of portraiture, and casual sports the difference between them is not visible. Wider dr scenes favors the D7000 and larger printing favors the D7100. If buying now, most people would be better served by the D7100. The price is very reasonable, a lot of camera for the money. If someone already has a competent camera, such as the D7000, there is less reason to buy a new camera when the money would generate better returns buying better lenses and lighting. Stan St Petersburg Russia
>If someone already has a >competent camera, such as the D7000, there is less reason to >buy a new camera when the money would generate better returns >buying better lenses and lighting. >Stan >St Petersburg Russia
I still am looking for a reason to upgrade, and can't quite find one. Buy new glass, yes. Lighting, yes.
I might benefit from moving to FX, but it's going to be a close call as far as IQ. I think the big gain for me would be better control layout (more buttons, less menu).
I appreciate all the comments. I am really considering upgrading to the D7100 as it has a much better AF system than the D7000. I like to shoot wildlife, including birds, and I think the improved AF in the D7000 will be a big help. Do any of you have first hand experience in how the D7000 performs compared to its predecessor in terms of photographing wildlife in different lighting conditions? If so, how do they compare?
I know some have already commented about seeing a big improvement when shooting sports which presents similar challenges.
I never really got on with my D7000, although I did have many credible results. I think it was probably the original torturous journey, but somehow we just didn't form a good partnership! Then, the D7100 arrived and frankly I jumped at it and this time I was not to be disappointed.
Straight out of the box it gave me the same good feeling as had my D800 some months earlier. That said my D700 was an excellent camera and I was sorry to see it go. When I saw the D7100 RAW files it was obvious that post process sharpening was going to be minimal, this I feel was down to the removal of the AA filter. Also, I found the images benefit from an improved dynamic range. Everything works well with the exception of the slow buffering, however I have worked around that and now don't see it as a show stopper.
It is my wildlife camera and I am glad I upgraded from the D7000
1. The 51 focus points are spread across the entire image. 2. Ability to instantly zoom to 100% with a single press of the selector button 3. 3.2-inch LCD 4. No anti-alias filter 5. Better high-ISO performance (in that area the D7000 was a disappointment to me).
I upgraded, but not to the D7100. I upgraded to the D600. I guess giving my GF my D7000 was the biggest upgrade I made in that series of transactions. The jury is still out over whether she likes the D7000 more than her old D300. There's probably a D7100 or the much ballyhooed D400 in our future.
Mostly, quick acquisition of a target. The D7000 is adequate at tracking a moving target once you have acquired it, but I always had difficulty getting initial focus quickly enough during fast-moving action. The D7100 seems snappier at that.
First cause for me looking elsewhere was my problem in getting sharp enough shots out of my D7000. I eventually tamed the beast and it will take very sharp photos now by using AF Fine Tune set up for my different lenses and focal lengths. But this was so much work that it put me off my camera.
When I read reports that the sensor in the D7100 was a Toshiba and not a Sony and that it did not have an AA filter, I was very curious. I watched to see what was getting posted here and elsewhere and was impressed by reports from various people. They were also highly complimentary about the video capabilities in the new camera.
Then the Europeans gave it the award for best new camera of the year last week! That is quite an accolade.
I guess what made me bite the bullet and spring for the new camera was when Best Buy had them on sale here in Canada online for one day only on August 22 for $1000.48 CAD. I didn't manage to get one from them because they sold out by noon time across the country but Lozeau's here in Montreal had them for $1069 CAD so I got one and took it home muttering "my precious..." under my breath (just kidding!)
After I got it, I tried it immediately and was very pleased with its performance the same way I was delighted with my D300 when I got it many years ago. It is better than my D7000 in getting the sharpness I want easily and intuitively. I am glad to have the 51 AF point option back as well and the focussing seems faster. They've improved the button placement for the still-video live view lever/button and have separate red button to trigger video. The video seems less shaky than what I get out of the D7000, too. So I am pleased. I will try to sell the D7000 which I have learned to respect and have set up to get sharp shots now after much toil and trouble.
Here's a fast untouched shot of the "guard owl" out by the tomato plants.
<<First cause for me looking elsewhere was my problem in getting sharp enough shots out of my D7000. I eventually tamed the beast and it will take very sharp photos now by using AF Fine Tune set up for my different lenses and focal lengths. But this was so much work that it put me off my camera.>>
Neill, you couldn't have summed up the reasons why I moved from the D7000 to the D7100 with any more accuracy. My earlier post describes my feelings.