Just got my D7000, and am working on getting it setup. Previous cameras are D90 and D50. My question: What image quality settings do most of you use? On my previous cameras, I always used JPEG Fine/Large. I setup my D7000 with those settings and the finder counter says I have room for about 550 shots on two 8GB cards. That seems terribly large, since I could get over 1000 on my D90 with one 8GB card.
I changed the setting to JPEG Basic/Large, and now it tells me I can shoot 2100 images.
1. Is the counter reading both SD cards, or just one? 2. Ken Rockwell says all you need is Basic/Large if you use Optimal image compression (which is what I set). He says this will give the same results as Fine/Large, because the compression will be optimized based on image detail. My previous cameras don't appear to have a setting for compression.
Please help. I invested $80 in those two 8GB SanDisk Extreme cards, hoping to be able to shoot at least 1000 images. Should I go out and get a 16GB card? That said, I don't really want bigger files than I need.
One more question (then I promise, I'll stop). Can you use two different size and/or quality cards in the two slots? Can I use a 16GB card for slot 1 and keep the 8GB for slot 2 for overflow.
I use RAW 14 bit and 8GB cards. So far, I have only used one card in the camera and have left the second slot empty. I have never had a card fail and do not feel the need for a backup, but if I did use a card in the second slot it would probably be as a backup.
I don't feel the need for a back-up, either. I'm not making my living from this, so if I lose a shoot, I'll be sad, but I'll get over it. I also use only SanDisk cards, and I handle them with kid gloves. As such, I set my second card up as overflow.
But, 550 images is dissappointing if it's for both cards. That is enough to shoot one football game with room to spare. But, if I don't get around to downloading for a week, and need to put a second game on the camera, that is probably not going to do it.
What I really need to know is whether that counter is reading both cards, or only card one. If it's only card one, then I'll be fine. Still, I may shoot basic for snapshots, as files twice as big as my D90 files are overkill for those types of shots.
OK. Checked out a couple of other forums, and the consensus seems to be that the counter indicates shots remaining on the active card (card 1 for me). When you overflow, then the counter resets indicating shots remaining on the second card. That means I have roughly the same number of shots (around 1,100) as I got with the D90, but with twice the storage capacity needed for them - making the files twice as big?
The other thing I'm reading, is that Nikon uses the worst case scenario in computing shots remaining - assuming the largest files possible, when in reality, many files are much smaller than the largest. This makes sense. So, I probably have something like 1,300 shots. I can live with that, but these files are much bigger.
Seems like you could have had only one card in the slot and what you saw on the screen would relate to it. Put the other card in and you still have the same reading. Therefore, the camera is reading your card 1. I believe it has been covered before that number of shots available on the card is much less than the actual that is available.
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Gamecocks is correct. The camera only reads the number of shots available on card 1. When Card one is full and the camera switches to card 2 it will initially show room for 550 additional photos. Therefore, with the two 8GB cards, you can shoot (conservatively) 1,100 photos.
You should be OK mixing 8GB and 16GB in the camera with the proviso that you'll have a problem if you go into mirroring your photos between card 1 and 2 because of the memory size difference.
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JPG compression, small image size choices and lower image quality settings are a holdover from the days when a 32 megabyte card cost $250. Those days are long gone. Always shoot the largest, highest quality available - in this case, JPEG fine/large/optimum quality.
The problem with advice like that found on the other site is that unless you're also an image processing guru/genius/expert, JPEG basic/large settings break down very quickly as soon as you start cropping and image in post processing or try to optimize the image for 300 dpi print output at anything larger than 8"x10". Why limit your output options?
I think it might be worthwhile to consider the value of putting overall technical image quality stored on your SD cards ahead of the total number of images that can be stored on the cards.
Goodness... how many times during an outing does one exceed 1000 shots? Moreover, who wants that many shots all on one card, for fear that card fails or gets lost or damaged? Consider shooting at the highest quality setting (for me it is NEF), and consider several medium capacity cards instead of one (all eggs in one basket) card. Cheers, Peter
>What are the advantages/disadvanteges of JPG vs RAW? > >DAVID
Assuming you're using full size/best quality for either option...
JPEGs are FAST. You just upload, print, email, etc. straight from the card. The D7000 produces great JPEGs. But they are like a cake that's already baked. Going in later on a PC and adjusting things like white balance is not as easy as it would be with Capture NX2 and a Nikon RAW (NEF) file. The RAW file allows changes to camera settings on the individual image that the "fully-baked" JPEG won't.
Plus, EVERY time you re-save a JPEG, you lose quality. Not noticeable to some, but definitely there. If I go back to a NEF file, and decide I want to change something, I can, without diminishing the quality when I re-save.
If I'm shooting a party, I might well switch to JPEG's for convenience. But for anything serious, I always shoot RAW. The D7000 allows you to shoot both, but I use my second slot as a backup of the first...
I would disregard that advice. It's always safest to shoot with the most information - that means compressed raw, usually. You can always toss information later, but you can't create it if you didn't capture it. If you like a shot, you may decide to make a big print - and basic won't cut it for that. Similarly, if you need to crop a lot, you'll find that basic isn't much good for that either.
On different cameras, I get ~1300 frames, 12mp lossless 140bit compressed raw on a 16GB card. Since you have a 16mp camera, I'd guess that you get only about 950 14-bit lossless compressed raw files on your two 8GB cards. But you're in the right ballpark. For reference, I shoot about 2500 frames in a weekend, usually on two cameras, when I go to a motor race.
The counter, as you've seen, shows only the current card. It's also a very conservative estimate. My camera shows 620-640 frames remaining when I have an empty card - but as above, I routinely get ~1300 frames onto the cards.
> Can you use two different size and/or quality cards in the two slots?
Yes, although if you configure the slots in "mirroring" mode, you'll get unpleasant results if they're too different. I normally put a 16GB SandDisk Extreme in one slot, a 16GB Ultra in the other slot - but I don't do mirrored, either.
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Thanks, guys. I think I'll reconfigure my custom settings back to JPEG/FINE/LARGE/Optimal. I can live with 1,000 images. I'll also grab a couple slower (cheaper) cards to throw in the bag in case I fill up. When I'm out of town, I can't always download to a computer everyday (download to my MAC at home, but I travel with my work windows-based laptop, which I don't want to put photos on).
I'm going to keep shooting JPEG. I typically only edit once or twice, so I'm not so worried about losing quality, and I rarely print larger than maybe 11x14.