I have Kelby's book (and read it ). After making edits, do I have to Export to Explorer folders to save the files or can I leave them in LR4 just as they are edited.
I noticed that when I deleted some unwanted edits on virtual copies, sometimes that whole stack of 2-3 images is wiped out to the Recycle bin and I have to go back to it to retrieve them. I just undated to LR4.3 - that is supposed to have fixed that issue - am I correct??
> "After making edits, do I have to Export to Explorer folders to save the files or can I leave them in LR4 just as they are edited."
As Bob said, exporting is different from saving. When you "edit" (metadata or adjustments), all edits are immediately stored in LR's catalog. If you have opted to save metadata in a sidecar XMP file, that file is created/updated automatically. Or you can create/update the sidecar file by "saving" (Ctrl-S). Yes, this is what Saving does in LR - it copies the edits from LR's catalog to an image-specific sidecar file. But there are some "edits" (user actions) that LR only stores in its internal catalog, such as flags (keep/delete), virtual copies, collections, etc.
> "I noticed that when I deleted some unwanted edits on virtual copies, sometimes that whole stack of 2-3 images is wiped out to the Recycle bin ..."
Make a note of what LR says when you press Delete. If it says: "Delete the selected virtual copy?", you can safely choose Delete. But if it says "Delete the selected *Master* files or Remove from LR catalog", this means that you have set the virtual copy as the master image. I think this is illogical. You can set a Virtual copy as Master, but you may forget having done so, and when you delete the photo labeled as the Virtual Copy, LR proposes to delete the master image. Fortunately it requests confirmation.
>" I just undated to LR4.3 - that is supposed to have fixed that issue"
Is "undated" a word? This is precisely what I did: installed 4.3, unliked it and re-installed 4.2. Fortunately I don't have any cameras requiring 4.3.
Sorry, I was just trying to be funny, because undoing an update is just what I recently did with LR. I should have continued that the odd behavior with virtual copies is not related to versions.
EDIT: And when I said "this means that you have set the virtual copy as the master image. I think this is illogical." ... I didn't mean your behavior is illogical but that LR's behavior is. When the user attempts to delete a virtual copy, deleting a virtual copy is what LR shoud do, IMO, and not even offer to delete an actual file from the disk.
WHy did you revert back to LR4.2? I noticed that when I went from LR4.2 to 4.3, I get more frequent errors with Windows forceing a shutdown of LR. I didn't get that with the previous version. Did you find this, or what did you find. I thought 4.3 was supposed to have fixed bugs present in previous versions.
I'm on Mac, but I think 4.3 is less reliable than 4.2. It's not too bad, it's more like going from a 95 to a 90, but it isn't in the direction that we really prefer. I've seen other software go from a 70 to a 50 - in other words from a C- to an F.
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I didn't get forced shutdowns. Instead in LR 4.3, when was in the Develop module, the screen frequently went black and LR started to process the image from anew, displaying the "Loading..." sign for several seconds. I had no issues with 4.2 so I reverted to it.
Plus once or twice, when I had transferred a set of photos from LR 4.3 to CS6, to be opened as smart objects, Photoshop suddenly ceased working. This has never happened to me before, nor did it happen again when I reverted to 4.2. It may be a case of LR 4.3 hoarding resources like memory or processor time, I don't know which.
I'm experiencing this now and it is really annoying. Does anyone else have this happening and maybe we should ask Adobe what gives? Of course they may see this as a money grabbing opportunity masked as customer support.
I'm using (Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit) the latest version of LR and haven't experienced any problem. Could be that I haven't processed many pictures to date and will experience a problem later (hope not).
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Under Edit/Preferences select file handling and at the bottom by the Camera Raw Cache Settings, I was instructed by Adobe reviews from Google to set this from the default of 1 GB to 3-5. I set it to 5 and dont' seem to be having the problem anymore. THey also suggested getting 16GB RAM. I think I have eight and some onboard my video driver, but I cant' remember. ANyway it seems to have helped.