Hello Everyone. I just recently purchased a used Nikon D700 from eBay. I received it the other day, very excited to try it out. Took my son and wife to the park and the camera worked great. The next day, I photographed an event in Philly with the D700, Sigma 70-200mm f2.8, and 2 SB800s. I was going well for a while, then the viewfinder started blinking on and off. The flash LCD was turning on and off. When I took the flash off the hot shoe, it went back to normal. I turned everything off. Reconnected everything, turned it on, and it worked well, until it started all over again.
My questions are: are the D700 and SB800 compatible? Do I need to update the firmware? If so, how is that done.
The D700 and the SB800 are certainly compatible. That's generally the flash I use on my D700 or any other body. It sounds like you have a contact problem, maybe dirty on either the flash or the body. This doesn't sound like an issue that can be fixed with firmware.
I bet it's the hot shoe problem too... That was my first thought. I guess the hot shoe can't handle a "load", and the SB800 is pretty heavy. Do Google and look into that - you can get a bracket that mounts on top of the camera at the hot shoe and holds the flash in place, or use a bracket. I'f not had any problems with my hot shoe, but I typically don't have my flash mounted on the hot shoe (except occasionally my SB400 - which is anything but a load!).
As a side note, Jack, do you like your little SB-400? I have both an SB-600 and an -800, but there are times when a little flash that sits higher than the built in one would be nice. I'm especially thinking of fill flash outdoors at events where everybody is wearing baseball hats and cowboy hats. I'm aware of most of the limitations of the -400, but the big flashes sure do feel vulnerable in crowds when I'm moving quickly. You can fully adjust compensation and such with the camera's controls for the built-in, right??
I do like my SB400... I use it inside the house and for vacations only, for the most part. The nice thing with the 400 is that you can tilt the flash element up to get some bounce. You can't do that on the built-in flash without some rigged diffuser. It's easy to keep with me and doesn't get in the way.
You mentioned that you use the SB400 on your D700. Is the SB400 powerful enough for you to get the shot you want? I use the SB400 on my Nikon P7000 and it's great. Never thought to use it on any other camera.
The D700 and SB800 are absolutely compatible. I had two of each for several years. But just as surely, there is an issue with the D700's hot shoe. I have had two replaced now by APS in Morton Grove, IL. My cure -- which I have carried over to my D800 bodies, is to use a flash bracket to take the weight off of the hot shoe and coincidentally, move the flash away from the body to greatly reduce redeye problems. Most of the time I also bounce the flash if I can.
I have explored this problem here on the Nikonians site, and while there seems to be a lot of agreement that it exists, Nikon has not acknowledged its existence nor certainly offered to do anything about it. Unless you want to risk a $200-plus repair bill, I recommend the flash bracket.
Tue 12-Nov-13 11:17 AM | edited Tue 12-Nov-13 11:21 AM by ctadin
Luis, When I was having problems with my SB-900 sometimes misfiring on the D700, one of the Nikonians recommended the Nikon WG-AS3 Water Guard. Even though it 's designed to protect your hotshoe from the elements of rain and sand, he said it makes for a tighter contact of your flash's hotshoe to the hot shoe of the camera, it certainly does. I purchased one for each of my D700's. Here is the link: http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Products/Product/Miscellaneous/25393/WG-AS3-Water-Guard.html Have you contacted the seller to let them know of your hotshoe problem?
Hello ctadin and everyone who has participated in this thread. I really appreciate the comments, suggestions, and advice.
I contacted the seller, who told me that he had tested the camera with the SB900 and that it worked well. I am thinking two possibilities to my problem. The first is that there is something wrong with the connection between the hot shoe of the camera and the hot shoe of the flash. I have looked for the Water Guard for the SB800 and D700, but keep finding Water Guards for the SB900. I will try the link you provided and see where it leads me.
The second thought is that there is something wrong with the one SB800 flashes. I had one fixed (burnt out flash) and it appears that last night, when I pressed the Model Light, something funky happened. Since then, it has miss fired and made weird noises. I am giving it a rest and seeing what happens.
It's strange, but as soon as I place the flash on the D700, it fires, without me pressing any buttons or the shutter on the camera. Looks like I may be in the market for an SB900. Thanks!
Luis, I no longer own any SB-800's so I wouldn't be able to see if my waterguard I purchased for the SB-900 would work on the SB-800. I'm sure if you gave Nikon a call or an email maybe they would be able to help you. The SB-900's have been replaced by SB-910's.
I was constantly having this problem with my quantum trio (about as heavy as the SB900) mounted on my D700 for my wedding jobs. I thought at first it was the flash. Then is recenly happened with the sb800 mounted on it. I am supposing that over time the hot shoe has loosened. I have ordered the water guard and will report back on its success in stopping the flash misfiring. In the meantime I will us my flash bracket as cumbersome as it is and resort to off camera flash with possible.
Hi Luis. I am currently a D700 user, but I also have a D300 and have had pretty much the same type of problem you mentioned. With a SB910 on my D300 I started having the menu on the SB910 flashing and although indicating it flashed, it did not. After reseating the SB910 on the D300 it worked as it should.
I am 99% convinced that it is the problem of a loose seating between the hot shoe and the Flash.
Short of getting the hot shoe replaced, I believe Alan has the right answer to alleviate always wondering if everything is going to be ok when needed .
Many times when I click the shutter, I just hope .... Website under construction - www.dalesmustangs.com - constructive criticism welcomed.
>I have looked for >the Water Guard for the SB800 and D700, but keep finding Water >Guards for the SB900. I will try the link you provided and >see where it leads me.
The reason you can't find a Water Guard for the SB-800 is Nikon never made one.
>The second thought is that there is something wrong with the >one SB800 flashes. I had one fixed (burnt out flash) and it >appears that last night, when I pressed the Model Light, >something funky happened. Since then, it has miss fired and >made weird noises. I am giving it a rest and seeing what >happens.
>It's strange, but as soon as I place the flash on the D700, it >fires, without me pressing any buttons or the shutter on the >camera. Looks like I may be in the market for an SB900.
Have you tried the SB-800 on your D300 or another body? This would confirm the problem is the Speedlight. If that is the case it would be significantly cheaper to repair the SB-800 than replace it.
Once again, I would like to thank everyone who responded to my question. Alan, I am going to try to use the flash bracket this weekend and see what happens. If worse comes to worse, I'll just send off the camera to Nikon or see if KEH can fix the problem. The bracket makes a lot of sense.
The SB800s do work well with the D300, but I am having some electrical connection issues with the camera and some lenses...never ending...
Sounds like the rails on the hotshoe might have spread out enough to cause the problem with continuity. Somme here have fixed the problem by gently tapping on the rails with a small light hammer. The key word is gently tapping without overdoing it and causing more damage.
That is what I have been reading, MEMcD, but I don't know if I feel comfortable with doing the tapping. I did, however, use the flash bracket on the D700 and attached the SB800 to it and fired off 40 shots of my son without any LED or flash problems. I believe this strategy will work for the wedding in 2 weeks, then I'll call Nikon and see how much it will cost to fix the hot shoe.
Sat 11-Jan-14 05:38 PM | edited Sat 11-Jan-14 05:39 PM by ajdooley
Luis -- If the flash bracket "fixes" the problem, I'd drive on. It will cost $200 to replace the hot shoe, if indeed that's the problem. Just insert the flash carefully and FULLY into its end of the flash cord and then same-same on the camera's flash shoe. I just think D700 flash shoes are inherently weak and when the flash flexes on the camera, contact is lost, either momentarily or permanently. After I replaced hotshoes on two D700s, I had no further problems. Were the replacements inherently superior? I'm not sure, but after the second time, I bought a bracket and used it. I have no idea if shoes on D800s are better, but I am continuing to use the bracket, both as a precaution and to move the flash further off the lens axis. I think the bracket is a win-win. It also allows me to carry the camera-flash in my left hand, a plus this summer and fall as I recover from rotator cuff surgery on the fight shoulder!
Thank you ajdooley. I am planning to use the bracket, but would like to use the camera/flash w/o the bracket once in a while. You've answered, also, which side of the camera to place the handle of the bracket. lol. Thanks.
YOU can buy the Nikon SK-6 which allows the sb800 to be side mounted. My trio is to heavy for the hotshoe so I am back to using my custom brackets digital pro m making for a very are weary day and night for my wedding photography.
My other solution, which I used this week was to sell my quantum Trio and buy a Metz 76mz handlemount flash with a nikon adaptor unit which attaches to the hotshoe mount. That will solve my problem of the haphazard misfiring of the trio and sb800 on the d700 hotshoe. I was getting arm tired of all the flash brackets, cameras and flash equipment which was making me look like a camera cyborg.