Really? What do you consider to be a low shutter count camera? 10k, 20k, 50k??
Thom Hogan is predicting the D700 to settle in at less than $2,000 new, which would drive the used price down a bit. However, that's only his speculation, right? If that were true, when would we see that happen?
Not everyone uses their cameras as machine guns. I'm sure that there will be used D700s with 3,000 to 7,000 clicks available from photographers that want "every shot to count." None of us are "swamees" so you will just have to check the ads. I had mine for 2 years and sold it with 5,000 clicks. I also had a Hasselblad MF camera for about 15 years, and if I was to guess, it probably had about 3,000 clicks on it, but in those days you had to pay for film and spend time to develop and print the negatives so we weren't so casual with our shots.
I put my D3s into machine gun mode last summer and took about 700 shots in one day. Never again! That's not photography, that's "I won't miss a shot because my camera keeps firing no matter what I'm dong. Even if I'm eating lunch, my camera will get the picture."
I just picked up a D700 with a little over 20,000 clicks for $1725. Then a battery grip, an extra battery for camera, two EN-EL41 batteries and a charger for $250. Both off of eBay. D700s are going from anywhere from 1575-2200 on eBay. Those with 7,000 or fewer clicks have been upwards $1900 with a few exceptions.
The lower priced ones here on Nikonians have gone very quickly. But if you are not a savvy bidder on eBay, paying a little bit more form a member here is worthwhile.
>Good stuff guys! Thanks a million for the tips... I'm keeping >a heads up over at the FM marketplace, and I'll keep my eyes >open here. You can also post in, "Wanting to Buy" a used D700 w/a low click count. I know people have had good and bad experiences on ebay, but, I prefer to make my purchases on Nikonians. Best of luck.
>Really? What do you consider to be a low shutter count >camera? 10k, 20k, 50k?? >
I've had my D700 for about 2 or 3 years now and I think I just got passed the 10k mark. I'm always really surprised when I see people with tens of thousands of shots. I guess the reason for my "low" shutter count is because I came from a film mentality where each frame was important since there was only 24 to 36 exposures. With medium format it was 12 frames.
If you're just going into full frame, especially the D700, keep in mind that the weight of the camera is pretty high, especially when compared to some of the DX cameras. They're also larger so if weight and medium to large cameras are an issue, then stick with what you're using. If you go to a store and check it out, buy it from that store. It's unfair using them as an online showroom.
Way way way way too much emphasis is placed on shutter count. If you buy a used camera with 5K or 50K do you actually think there's a difference between the two? How do you know that the 5K wasn't in the fannypack of a mountain biker and the 50K one was used only on a tripod in a studio? You don't. People can make any claim they want as well with no way in hell you can prove them right or wrong. You can pick one up used at a considerable savings right now and then take the risk that it's in perfect condition when you receive it. Inspect it and make sure of the terms. It is safe to purchase on ebay through Paypal because they have an excellent return/money back policy set in place now as long as you abide by it. When the D3s cameras come down to about $3K used (maybe in a year) I'll probably pick one up no matter what the shutter count is! They are still a little too high priced used at the moment in my humble opinion. Right now my D700 is my workhorse and you won't regret owning one for a second. Good luck!
Soon after the tsunami in March, 2011, I bought a D700 refurbished from the Nikon USA Store. It came with about 22.5K shutter actuations. I assume Nikon checked it out thoroughly. It now has 23.6K actuations. Seems to me this may be different than a camera bought new that now has 23.6 actuations. No matter what, though, if two cameras are virtually identical, the one with substantially fewer actuations is going to be more desirable.
One of the reasons why the emphasis is on shutter counts with cameras is because the mechanical shutter is rated for just a certain number of actuations. I've had shutters go out on me while on vacation. Not fun esp without a backup.
I'm holding a D700 I don't use as a back-up. After I get my 800 I'll let go of it. The battery count is misleading as hell. Nikon is saying that is the least you should expect. You can figure that they have quite a bit of cushion built in. At the very worst case, the shutter goes south, you get it replaced I don't know how much it is but that's only a fraction of the whole camera. If anyone believes the camera is shot after the magical number, call me, I would be glad to buy it for scrap.
I bought one last week in Holland from marktplaats, which is a site in used items similar to and owned by ebay. It was brand new. The owner claimed he regretted his buy and wanted something else. I was lucky to buy it from him for € 1450. I checked the shuttercount before I bought it and it was brand new. Om this site the used d700 sells for about this price. It doesn' t make a difference if the count is 2k or 35k.