If the sensor in the D700 is exactly the same as in the D3, and if the engine and processing are the same, how come Capture NX doesn't read the D700's Nef files like it does the D3's? Is it another Nikon encryption trick to force us to buy yet another piece of lousy Nikon software, NX2? When I tried it, I think it was even more sluggish than NX, and you still couldn't apply indvidual corrections to a lot before launching a batch conversion. And you can't even get it on-line, you have to drive to a dealer. BTW, there is a free patch for ACR.
My apologies, Hammam. I didn't mean for the last statement to sound as if it was due to user error. That said, the only reason I thought you were talking about NX2 is because it is in the title of your post. Perhaps you should consider altering that to avoid any further confusion. Again, what I meant to say was that perhaps the issue was isolated to your camera, but then again, I was confused as to which one, NX or NX2, you were using to open the files. Why mentione NX2 in your title and not NX if that is where the problem lies? See what I mean?
Because my main question was: why do Nikon force us to buy NX2 in order to read the D700's Nef files, since plain NX can't do it, even though the D700 is the exact same camera (as far as image processing is concerned) as the D3 in a different body? It was not: what's wrong with the D700 and NX?
Ever since Nikon's dirty trick of encrypting the Nef files in the D1 - or was it the D2? - so that no third party software could read them, forcing you to buy their lousy Capture thing, I've been wary of these little schemes by Nikon.
I've asked Nikon the question. They answered by saying: «...Every camera designed encodes the images slightly different this is the reason that each NEF from different cameras always requires a new codec or plugin to be able to view the images...» Thank you, this was pretty obvious, and was not the answer I was expecting. Did it HAVE to be like that when the D700 and D3 are basically the same camera? That was the essence of my question. Why not use the same encoding in the D700 as in the D3? I asked again, and am awaiting their reply. IF they do reply.
Si, if you invest heavily in Nikon, cameras and optics, and buy, say, a D3, a D700 and, why not, a P80, you will need THREE different converter programs? At the cost of $150 each? Give me a break.
To me, it is well worth the upgrade. NX2 is a much better platform and gives you outrageous color control. It has more to do with just opening the files. Shouldn't knock it till you try it. But I do understand where you're coming from now. That's just the nature of the beast.
>Why not use the same encoding >in the D700 as in the D3?
I imagine it is simply that if they did that, you would be unable to tell from the EXIF data whether a D3 or a D700 was used to make the image.
>Si, if you invest heavily in Nikon, cameras and optics, and >buy, say, a D3, a D700 and, why not, a P80, you will need >THREE different converter programs?
Of course not
Capture NX 2 supports both D3 and D700, so that is all you would need. NX 2 will no doubt be getting a free update shortly for the D90, and then for any further new Nikons which may be released during its lifespan. By the way, the Coolpix P80 doesn't shoot in RAW, so any software will support that one.
> >>Why not use the same encoding >>in the D700 as in the D3? > >I imagine it is simply that if they did that, you would be >unable to tell from the EXIF data whether a D3 or a D700 was >used to make the image. >
*** Good point! Then there would be no way to calculate shutter actuations. I didn't even think of that!
To differentiate my files, I use the Naming capability of both the D3 and the D700, not Exif data. File names in the D3 start with D3 (and _D3) and those in the D700 start with... you guessed it, D70. Anyway, is it that difficult to change a line of code from D3 to D700 in the Exif data?
Yes, NX2 supports D3 and D700, but I had ALREADY bought NX before I got it bundled with the D3. And, BTW, it is not a trial version. Why is it a trial version of NX2 that's bundled with the D700? And why would there be a free update for the D90 and further new Nikons if there is already no free update from NX to NX2? I don't get this.
Apart from a limited-time offer when the D300 and D3 were new, Nikon has never bundled a full version of Nikon Capture with their DSLR's. The D700 situation is no different.
Capture NX 2 is considered to be a major upgrade, and as such Nikon have decided to charge for it. Smaller updates to Capture NX 1 were issued as free downloads at regular intervals to fix problems and to support new cameras like the D80, D3, D300 etc. The same is certain to apply to NX 2 to support the D90 as well as future cameras, at least until the next major NX upgrade.
I suggest you are making too much of this. We may not like Nikon's software policy, but it is (mostly) consistent and understandable once you think logically about it.
Let me put this more clearly: if NX2 IS such a major upgrade to NX 1.3.1, ie a BETTER program, then I might buy it for THAT reason, NOT because it's the only Nikon program that allows me to read my D700 Nef files. In the meantime, I see no reason why NX 1.3.1 does not allow me to do it. I can understand if the camera is entirely new, like going from the D2X to the D3, not when it's the exact same camera.
>well, there is a free hack available that makes your files >readable to older releases of a software, so why bother? > >the D700 did cost me 2,6k€, so the 100€ cost of upgrading my >LR, NX or whatever will not be the limiting factor in case I >do not want to apply the hacks available for free.
I guess the hack is for PC. I'm on Mac. You are right about the money, but for me this is more a matter of principle than money.
Sun 31-Aug-08 06:36 AM | edited Sun 31-Aug-08 06:41 AM by PaulBennett
While having some merit, your 'if' assumptions are without foundation, as the camera central processing unit and software are different between D3 and D700.
Perhaps I missed it in the above posts, but did you install the D700 codec which comes on the D700 package CDRom? That codec contains the interpretation information for the D700 NEF files to be read as intended. I don't think there is a conspiracy.
>While having some merit, your 'if' assumptions are without >foundation, as the camera central processing unit and software >are different between D3 and D700. > >Perhaps I missed it in the above posts, but did you install >the D700 codec which comes on the D700 package CDRom? That >codec contains the interpretation information for the D700 NEF >files to be read as intended. I don't think there is a >conspiracy. > >
Does Nikon give any official instructions, plug ins, etc that would allow you to open NEF files from the D700 with Capture 1.x?