I wouldn't be without a point and shoot. Not every outing calls for a 200-400 bolted to a D3x. (I don't own either). I take my P&S to social events, out on the golf course, to family gatherings, and other places where all I want are some snapshots or, at least, the ability to catch a shot. I've actually taken a few nice photos that I've enlarged to 13x19. They really don't compare to the D700, but they're not bad. I usually buy a top end camera such as the Canon SD990IS and then upgrade when a better model comes out. I print many of these photos on an Epson Picture Mate Snap, and the people in the pictures are happy to have them. Photography is a great hobby, and there are a lot of ways to have fun with a camera.
A P&S has traveled with me on every trip for the past five years. For the past 8-10 months it's been either a Panasonic LX3 or a Canon G10. In ideal lighting, both cameras help make very good quality photos. In tough or dim light, a custom white balance usually helps and the built in image stabilization in both cameras also helps compensate for slower shutter speeds and my personal preference not to push a P&S beyond ISO800.
My choice of P&S has nothing to do with carry-on issues. I think most serious amateur and hobbyist photographers travel with w-a-y too much gear. So the rest of my urban exploration travel kit consists of a D700, Nikkor 24-70 f/2.8 and a Nikkor AF-S 50mm f/1.4. Five or six days into any urban walkabout somewhere in Europe and my general plan is so marked up and jumbled that I sometimes leave the heavy stuff in the hotel and just wander galleries and museums, take in a show, etc., etc., for a couple of days, and visit interesting cafes and whatnot armed only with a Moleskine notebook and a P&S. That's usually when I get involved in the most interesting conversations with other travelers, locals and shopkeepers. Those conversations usually generate a lot of new photography ideas. Of course I end up talking to lots of people when I'm carrying the heavier kit too, but those conversations often begin & end with discussions about camera gear - boring when I'm traveling.
I travel so light now (washable, tough, secure Tilley clothing and MEC outerwear and a very specific photography kit) that I carry-on everything, even for long trips and research projects. A Think Tank Urban Disguise 35 for my camera gear, netbook, iPod and Sony eReader, and a Briggs & Riley 20" Superlight roller (U420LC) all go on board with me. I sometimes use either a Victorinox 18" World Traveller roller (WT-18, recently replaced by the slightly larger WT-20) or a Briggs & Riley 18" Superlight roller (U418L) if I know in advance that I'll be flying on regional or commuter jets. They're all great, tough bags which take a tremendous beating without flinching and thus can be safely checked-in if I'm forced to do so (which happens from time to time when local security alerts in different airports limit carry-ons).
We have just been on the road for 4 months and had a hefty kit of Nikon gear based on the D700 ..... but a last minute inclusion was a G10.
Picked that ahead of the P6000 and quite happy with the choice and image quality. Battery was the biggest hassle as we could not charge two batteries at the same time as we only had 1 European adapter - will take 2 next time.
The G10 is not ultra compact - something of a 'little brick' but was a very capable backup and much more easily carried option. Does allow options when DSLR's are too conspicuous or bulky.
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Hi, I traveled 2 months through Thailand,Laos,Vietnam and Cambodia last year with a rucksack and decided to buy the P6000 to take together with my D60 with 18-200 because it has got GPS. I left the D700 at home because it was just too big for this type of travel. In fact, I did not use much the GPS, because it just takes too long to get a signal, but it was really useful to have the P6000 at my belt, ready to go, but I used it only when I could not use the D60. Jean-luc
I have to admit that at times I use a Canon G9. It feels good, reasonably small but the down side is dreadful red eye with the flash and picture quality ... well shall we say that it is not a D700!!
I was on a photographic trip just after I bought it and many of the pro's on the trip really liked it. A few went off and bought the G10 afterwards but I think that 14Meg pixels was really too much for such a small sensor. I see that the new G11 is now back to 10 MP and they say improved noise.
Now, if I can persuade my wife that she really needs the G9, I could maybe look at the G11
I have a Nikon P4 and a P90 that I use for special events where my D700 would be totally inappropriate or too hard to lug around, or where I might need to leave the camera unattended for a brief period of time (such as at wedding receptions when the wife drags me onto the dance floor). Or at times when I want to be less obtrusive (as in "no cameras allowed" venues!). Or when travelling abroad when I might want to do some snap-shotty sightseeing. The P4 is a nice all-around pocket camera for the occasions I mentioned. The P90 is less useful for those occasions, in my opinion, as it is a bit more bulky.
I use a Nikon S52 for a shirt pocket camera when I don't want to lug the heavier gear or when a DSLR will be overkill. When I travel, I carry both and then some depending on the nature of the trip. Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!
I use the fantastic Nikon Coolpix P6000. In fact sometimes I wonder why I lug my D700 + pro lenses around! The images are crystal, the flexibility of A,P,M, RAW etc. makes this the most sense when travelling and when out with the grandchildren etc. The downside, well flexibility. Doesn't do in flight birds and distant nature photography obviously. For £300 ($450 approx) it's a real gem. The attached image is an example.
Sorry about the delay in replying. Yes, St Ives with my (or should say my wifes) P6000. I am in Wales also, North so get plenty of opportunities for landscapes. Only joined Nikonians recently and find it far more polite than dpreview.
Like many above, I carry a P6000 in my briefcase daily. I have to admit I'm not real happy with the image quality from in though. The raw files are "normal" raw (NRW) and sometimes persnickity when I'm trying to download into Lightroom. I have to admit, the best shots I took with the P6000 were at a concert this summer - go figure?
>Hi Diane: > >Like many above, I carry a P6000 in my briefcase daily. I >have to admit I'm not real happy with the image quality from >in though. The raw files are "normal" raw (NRW) and >sometimes persnickity when I'm trying to download into >Lightroom. I have to admit, the best shots I took with the >P6000 were at a concert this summer - go figure?
Pete, You have hit the nail on the head for me! I am concerned that I will not be happy with the picture quality from a P&S. Also the following things are different from the D700: the RAW file type, the card used in the camera, the battery. You get the picture of what else bugs me about one more piece of electronic equipment.
The whole reason I started this thread is because I am taking a trip (on a plane) next month and, along with a film camera and one lens, I was planning to take the D700 and one lens with me unless there was something more compact out there that compared to the D700. I guess that's like comparing apples to oranges.
I almost always have a point and shoot in my messenger bag -- and in fact, when I go to trips like weekends in NYC, a day at an amusement park, vacations in Walt Disney World, or most recently, even half-a-week in Paris, I leave my D700 at home. I love my D700, but when I go on a trip, I want no equipment with me that weight me down.
I used to use a Canon g9 which I thought was awesome -- but then I saw the IQ and focal length of the Panasonic ZS3 and switched to that -- lots of sample shots in my galleries at ronannarbor.smugmug.com -- all the Paris 09 and Cedar Point 09 pics are with the point and shoot.
The point and shoot even goes in my pocket when I do professional event shots -- you never know when you have only that 24-70 lens on your D700 and you suddenly see a once-in-a-lifetime shot 200 feet away...the ZS3 gets it, even if it isn't the same quality -- you do a little post processing and the customers don't know the difference...
I have a road warrior job, so a lilac Coolpix S210 always rides in the side of my backpack on every trip. I have really enjoyed using it when I get a chance on the road. I also picked up an older Coolpix 5400 on an auction. It's a great little camera that shoots RAW.
I use a Nikon P5100 P?S. The small sensor in these cameras yield a large depth of field. This excellent for taking photos of small items that are to be sold on Ebay or photo posted on the web. There are times when you don't won't to carry your DSLR system yet still want to make a snapshot. Such as parties and informal get togethers.
Last year I purchased the Canon SX10 IS with the intent that my wife would use it. After seeing how handy the camera is (20 x optical zoom - a 28-560mm equivalent) and the quality of pictures, I'll usually put it in the bag with the D700 and gear. My daughter travels quite a bit, and she borrows this camera - she has some wonderful pictures taken with this camera. Bill
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Hi, Diane! Last year I bought my wife a Lumix LX3 - which she adores. When we travel, we always bring it along because of the really nice files it produces (due to the Leica lens) and the wide capability (24mm). I usually end up with it on my belt inside the little Leica leather case - using it more than she does! Regards John
I find myself using my Gxx more and more. All the lugging around with the D700 and lens can really be too much at times. Also walking around with a small camera allows you to blend into the surrounding more easily. I love the images I get with it, in fact I just got a G11... wow.
I tried the P6000 and was not satisfied with the image quality and other things. I shoot only RAW so it is a pain not to be able to use NX2, oh yeah, it doesn't work in MAC OS 10.6 anyway.
Of all the things that have come out of the discussion, one thing is absolutely sure - loyal Nikon DLSR and VSLR users are having trouble accepting the less than stellar quality of Nikon P&S cameras. The majority of us seem to have chosen other P&S brands. Nikon would appear to have a great opportunity to make a lot of sales to us when it finally releases a P&S which can go head-to-head with the best from Canon and Panasonic.
Then again, Nikon frequently arrives somewhat late to the party with a better product. Good for us. Unfortunately, the P&S party has been going on for a long time. I'd like to go all-Nikon, but I really enjoy using my non-Nikon P&S quite regularly. Just picked up a G11. Selling my G10.
Maybe it's time for Nikon to pare off some of its tiny-sensor P&S budget in favor of an APS-C P&S project? Leica's done it. Panasonic and Olympus are in the midst of a head's down micro four-thirds push (and the micro four-thirds products seem to be delightful).
I've stopped reviewing Nikon P&S cameras on Kickstartnews.com because they're all of a kind - various feature & function combinations, average ergonomics, average image quality, average looks and average usability. I had high hopes for the P-series, but they just haven't rung the bell. Same things goes for the L- and S-series. When you run out of good things to say about a lineup, best not to say anything more I think.
Does anyone think that Nikon might go down the micro four-thirds route? I have been looking at the Olympus Pen EP 1 and now I see it is undated to an EP-2 but I have not yet made a decision. I have two film caneras (remember film?) a Voiglandr Bessa R and an R2, beautiful cameras and three terrific lens, 21mm F4, 35mm F2.5 and a 90mm F3.5. I wonder if these would fit ona micro four-thirds camera? Would be very attractive if they did.
Nikon has applied for various patents this year for a smaller than 4/3 sensor. The patents imply a 2.5 crop. 4/3 is 2.0 crop. Hard to be certain from a patent whether and when Nikon may actually produce such a camera. See NikonRumours website for details, several lenses are mentioned, not sure if interchangeable lenses but I believe this is implied.
I admit to trying them, and some produce high quality images like the Canon G10 and Lumix G1, however in the end I'm too much of a perfectionist and would rather take the added weight to get the shot I want, the first time around.
With a D700, plus D300 as backup and four lenses normally in my kit (20-35 f/2.8D, 28-70 f/2.8D AFS, 80-200 f2.8D AFS, 105 f2.8D AF macro) and an Epson P3000 portable HD, plus numerous grad filters, cables etc etc, I have enough gear without adding another charger and batteries as others have mentioned!
I teach photo workshops here in Montréal, and the Canon PowerShot models are popular as an economical entry level cam with many of the participants. They are mostly used for family and travel pics, for which they do the job. For small cameras, the quality is decent, and they even have Exposure (EV) Compensation, though many do not know how to use this good feature to improve their shots!
I do have a P&S, but I don't really like to use it. Probably if I looked around and found one that I liked it would be better. I have kept my D200, and take it along with a couple small primes. (35 f2, 50 f1.4). In most cases that will bet me what I want. It makes a small, and light weight kit.
I use a Nikon Coolpix P6000. The results are tremendous, although the trade off is the limited flexibity in not using various lenses as on my D700. The positive is it's light, great for air travel and very discreet. I wouldn't call it a point and shoot camera though, it's a bit more than that!
I use my canon G9 100% of the time I made a custom hand made camera leather bag with my initials on it and placed a holster clip on it. it is always attached to my belt. After twiking the images I get very good 18x24 out of this camera. I only use my nikons for paying jobs. Don
My point and shoot is a D300s with an 18-200 f/3.5-5.6 VR. Not exactly pocket size, but small enough to carry around all day without getting back-ache, same RAW files, same battery (and you get a charger when you buy it, so with the one from the D700 you can charge two at a time) and great quality shots.
My "light" travel kit is a D300 with either my 35mm f/2 or my 17-35 f/2.8. That doesn't seem light and compact, but it starts to look pretty darn good after hauling around a D700 with a 24-70
I've thought about a P&S a number of times, but I just can't shake my addition to fast glass and a good AF system. If I ever decide that I want even smaller, I'll pick up a D40 or D60 and use it with my 35mm f/2 or 50mm F/1.8. I'll forgo the "benefits" of a P&S with a slow zoom lens for the quality of a D40 class DSLR with a fixed focal length fast lens.
>I've thought about a P&S a number of times, but I just >can't shake my addition to fast glass and a good AF system. If >I ever decide that I want even smaller, I'll pick up a D40 or >D60 and use it with my 35mm f/2 or 50mm F/1.8. I'll forgo the >"benefits" of a P&S with a slow zoom lens for >the quality of a D40 class DSLR with a fixed focal length fast >lens. >
I too like the idea of a D40-sized camera with a DX prime or two, but I'd like to see the D300 sensor in the D3000-line of camera. How about a D3100 teamed with the 35mm f1.8 and 85mm f3.5?
Sun 06-Dec-09 12:12 PM | edited Sun 06-Dec-09 12:21 PM by Martin G
I'm always amazed what I can get out of my aging Canon S80. I will usually carry a p&s with my DSLR for times like below (also handy for the odd bit of video). We were out for dinner so I didn't want to be carrying the DSLR. I have this shot printed large and it still looks great!
I really like the Panasonic DMC FX01 we have had for quite a while. It has a wide angle lens that is sharp and the zoom range is handy. It is used all of the time by the family. It is noisy in low light but other than that it is such a handy small camera to carry and use. A sturdy little tool. It can be set to take images with no sound at all, silent. If I can't carry much on a trip it has been the DMC and a Leica M film body. With the D 700 I will still carry around the tiny Panasonic.
I've carried my Nikon Coolpix 7900 around through the ownership of a D70s, D200 and now a D700. There are times the small pocket size is just the thing you need to get the shot without someone turning their head when they see the big hardware come up. I have also used it for close up type photos, when I have a longer lens on the D700.
I always have been using a P&S camera concurrently to my DSLRs, usually a Canon. Currently I use the Canon Powershot S90 and am very happy with it. According to the motto of Jay Maisel "Always carry a camera", I have the Powershot S90 in the pocket of my jacket at all times, in case I bump into a situation worthy to photograph.
When I travel, I carry the Nikon D300s with the 18-200mm lens as "P&S" with me (usually with a GPS to help me remember where I have been).
Only for dedicated shooting sessions I use my D700 with a tripod, filters etc.
As long as you don't need to shoot in very low light or quickly moving things, then current P&S cameras yield excellent results. I look forward to get the new version of DxO which supports the Powershot S90 so I can use its RAW feature.
These days basically you never are without a camera: Your mobile phone (usually an iPhone) has a built in camera, so don't forget that
I've tried a lot of different P&S cameras from Canon (SD800, SD 880, SX3 IS, SX10IS)and Nikon (Coolpix 990, 995, 8700 & 8800) over the years and have never been really happy with the results. When the lighting is good, the images can be quite acceptable, but so often I found myself wanting to take images in less than ideal conditions. Usually, I wish I had the ability to shoot RAW files so that I can manipulate the results in PhotoShop. My current P&S is a Canon SX10IS that has been converted to shoot RAW with the CHDSK hack. That modification has improved things a lot. Even then, I miss the level of control I had with a "real" camera. Another problem I have with P&S cameras is that I find myself accidently activating buttons that change some setting that I'm not aware of. I finally broke down and bought a D90 with the 18-105 kit lens and that has become my P&S. It's so much lighter and compact than my D700 outfit, it seems like a P&S to me. I have not regretted the move and have not used any of my true P&S cameras since getting the D90. Dave Jolley
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I still use a Konica Digital Revio KD-500Z, which is a 5 Mega Pixel camera. Konica went out of the camera business about 5 or 6 years ago, but their camera is still working fine for me. It's also a lot smaller than my D700.
My wife and I have used many point and shoots in our lifetime. We currently have the P6000, but like many P & S camera's it's not that great in low light situations... We realized that for not much larger (but definitely not pocket sized) we can conveniently carry an Oly E-620 with a 25mm pancake lens (which in the 4/3rds world is 50mm).
What a wonderful little camera!!! We are now very anxious to check out other 4/3rds cameras, most notably the Oly EP-2.
I travel all the time for work. I decided to get a P&S rather than carry the D700 and a few f/2.8 zooms. The bag was getting heavy. Now the bag is heavier ... it has an almost never used G11 in place of something else I never used. I guess I should give the little Canon a chance. DPower
Bit the bullet yesterday and bought a Canon G11. I was holding out for an Olympus EP-2 but not yet available here. I had a coulpe of vouchers for a local camera store which I had to useand so yesterday I bought the G 11. Seems really nice, far too early to tell how good it really is.
Had my Pentax Optio 555 for several years, it takes fabulous quick snap pictures.I carry the Pentax 555 and also my Pentax *istD with a 12-24 lens on it at all times while up north at my camp.Bears ,moose and many other wild animals pop up at any given time while I travel around on my ATV, so those two cameras are used for quick access for quick pictures. My new D700 and lenses will be going on my back on my future trips, which I am still in the process of learning all I can about. Read 3 books ,two DVD's, manual and now taking many trial pictures.(There is much to learn and do with the D700, can't see giving it up for a long time)Though I will always take the other two cameras along on all my trips back in woods, they were good units in their time and worth more to me than a few bucks they unfortuneately would sell for today.
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Just purchased the Cannon S90. It is awsome. It even will shoot raw. My D700 and 24-70 is great but can be too heavy at times. I am also very impressed with the color and white balance of the cannon s90. I have several Nikon point and shoots but the white balance is always a little blue for my tast. Love the D700 but hate the weigh.
If you look at Jim's work and read his conclusions on the camera, my thoughts are now the same. It has become my personal favorite camera, and probably the best value for money item Leica has ever sold.
It is completely silent, in my pocket always, good in low light, and completely unobtrusive. Plus it will sync on a hotshoe with a Nikon SB (locking pin fits too) to 1/2000 at full power, and shoot 16:9 HD movies.
The most amazing part of this camera to me is that its camera jpegs are better than any camera I have ever seen. I shoot RAW + JPEG with this and I hardly ever bother to touch the RAW the jpg are so good. big time saver, super on vacations.
After 35 years of carrying an SLR most places, I finally bought an S90 because the size and quality had reached my thresholds. A week later I was on a short walk in miserable weather so had only that in my pocket when I came across a local group who had restored an historical cabin and were having a candlelit coffee morning. With ISO 400, VR, raw, and -2 flash fill I was able to unobtrusively take decent pics that captured the atmosphere, and the group were so pleased that I became their official photographer, and will follow their work with my 700.
Wed 20-Jan-10 08:43 AM | edited Wed 20-Jan-10 08:45 AM by geneluck
I use a P6000 and am very happy with it. I cannot use P&S with LCD only: I personally cannot frame properly or capture people's expressions without an optical finder. When I traveled to Asia I started only with my P6000, but I asked my wife who was joining me for a short while in Vietnam to bring my D60, the D700 being too bulky. I must say that from then on, I only used the P6000 when I needed a quick shot or to be as unobtrusive as possible:I had it in a small pouch, constently attached to my belt.
I recently took a trip to Jamaica and bought a Canon D10 Point and Shoot camera. I can tell you that I am not a fan of point and shoot cameras but this little Canon has really impressed me. Of course I did understand that in low light I was going to deal with noise so I did understand what I was buying. So far my experience has been very positive and this camera can even go 30 feet under the water without a housing. So it is perfect for snorkeling and shallow dives as well as sunsets. It seems to do very well for portraits in good light. Toss in the fact that it is image stabilized and you have a nice travel camera.
I bought a Leica D-lux 4 camera. in low light the auto-focus is not able to pick up the subject very well and I end up with out of focus subjects. It is better than using my cellphone and therefore I carry it everywhere.