As sophisticated as they are I think the D3 and D700 would benefit greatly by having an EV setting that could lock the shutter speed and aperture taken manually that would allow us to spin the control wheel for more creative use of depth of field. Where time permits I am now using my calibrated light meter but it it so frustrating when say I have a reading of 250 @f13 but want to use F2.8 I would need to be autistic to reset my camera quickly. The present way of taking the hand held light meter reading and scrolling thru the shutterspeed/aperture combinations is just too time consuming. I would have thought that with such high end cameras it would be a very welcome feature.
>As sophisticated as they are I think the D3 and D700 would >benefit greatly by having an EV setting that could lock the >shutter speed and aperture taken manually that would allow us >to spin the control wheel for more creative use of depth of >field. >Where time permits I am now using my calibrated light meter >but it it so frustrating when say I have a reading of 250 @f13 >but want to use F2.8 I would need to be autistic to reset my >camera quickly. The present way of taking the hand held light >meter reading and scrolling thru the shutterspeed/aperture >combinations is just too time consuming. I would have thought >that with such high end cameras it would be a very welcome >feature.
I'm sorry but I'm somewhat lost. I shoot almost exclusively in manual mode with auto ISO. If I want F 2.8 (which is often the case) then I set F 2.8 (or F whatever) and dial up the shutter speed until the auto ISO goes above 200 and then take the picture. It is quick and effective. I use this on my D300 and D700 for almost every picture I take
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Thanks for the response Phil but what I would like is to have the same exposure locked in manual but the ability to quickly change it for depth of field. ie: I set my camera for 250th.@F13 iso 100 but then want to use f2.8 so my equivelant shutter speed would by 5000th, or at f5.6 my speed would be 1250. Without going into the smart auto P programme mode I don't believe there is a way to lock the exposure that will give you the different depth of field with a turn of the control wheel.
Tue 22-Sep-09 01:58 AM | edited Tue 22-Sep-09 02:05 AM by elec164
I might be missing something here but isn’t that what aperture priority mode is for?
I mean I can see using a hand held light meter to go for a specific affect that would be difficult to achieve with the in camera meter. But once you have your reading you set the aperture in A mode then use exposure compensation if needed to get the shutter speed correct. Then all it takes is a spin of one control wheel to change both settings (edited to clarify that I meant shutter speed and aperture) as wanted.
Just sort of thinking out loud to see if my idea is a workable solution.
>As sophisticated as they are I think the D3 and D700 would >benefit greatly by having an EV setting that could lock the >shutter speed and aperture taken manually that would allow us >to spin the control wheel for more creative use of depth of >field.
I see what you mean. If I understand correctly, it would work like in Program mode, where you can turn the dial to select different Aperture/Shutter combinations, except that the EV reading would not come from the camera meter, but you would enter it based on your light meter reading. This feature would indeed be very nice. It might be an extra mode, like "EV mode", where with one dial you select the EV that comes from your light meter, and with the other dial you browse through the Aperture/Shutter combinations. I'd like that very much, but from what I know there is no such thing on any camera model.
Not exactly what you're looking for, but if you roll the thumb wheel while you're in Program mode, you get a bunch of different shutter/aperture combinations. Not quite as quick as what you're talking about.....but close.
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Exactly Tom, for old Hasselblad users like myself this would be a great feature. For really tight controls I find my light meter to give me better exposures than TTL. Kind of like "Set it and forget it" I work most of the time in really bright sunny conditions where it is difficult to read the LCD screen and the histogram is no more than a guide so to have the confidence to set the exposure correctly with the light meter gives me great peace of mind.
Wouldn't you get this basically by just doing bracketed shots?...I don't putz with any of those settings anymore with digital cameras -- why worry when you can just set your bracketing however you want it, and one of the shots will most likely be exactly what you want (or slightly tweeking in post processing)...otherwise, basically your not using the power of your digital camera and resorting to old SLR shooting methods...
Anyway, hope you find a way to resolve your dilemma, but I'm not sure if it's do-able on the D700...
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I think this "EV" mode for manual would be nice, and I would use it a lot.
My work around, which isn't great, is that I simply count how many "clicks" I turn the aperture dial and then turn the shutter dial the same number of clicks in the opposite direction. You have to keep up with the count and make sure you are moving the dials the correct way, so it's anything but automatic! In fact I usually move each dial 3 clicks at a time until I get where I want to be - easier for my simple mind to only have to count to 3 at a time!
I use this approach a lot when I'm shooting concerts or other difficult light conditions where I can't trust the camera meeter to get it right.
The is no M* setting but it could be implemented in a new firmware release.
I see it working like this: --------------------------- 1. set the camera to M, no AUTO-ISO. 2. set your ISO, aperture, shutter as needed for proper exposure using the camera meter 3. flip to M* 4a. whirl the shutter then the aperture would change to keep the exposure correct 4b. whirl the aperture then the shutter would change to keep the exposure correct
Send Nikon service and support an email requesting the feature and point back to this thread. Not that it will or won't make it in but they need to know what people want.
Exactly Louis, why they have never made it a feature I don't know but it would be a very welcome one. I tried to email Nikon service last night but after getting the run around on their web page with trying to set up an account to ask the question I got tired of trying. I will try again today.