>Alright, instead of using the word Converted, we say relegated..
No, my D300 has not in any sense been relegated by my acquisition of a D700. Both of them have their own distinct characteristics and uses. So do my wife's D80 and our shared Coolpix P5000, each of which I have chosen to take out instead of one of my cameras on some occasions.
I usually take a D700 and D300 out - I tend to use the D300 for the extra "reach" and the D700 for the "wide", but either body can easily find the 70-200 on it or the 800mm on it, depending on what I am doing.
AND, by the way, I also have a D40X I DID convert to infrared but I also have a D40X standard that I sometimes use with just a 50mm 1.4 on it if I want to be more "stealthy" and ultra light weight.
But, then again, my Fuji EXR200 goes with me for the kids birthday parties
In the end - I say, you take the gear appropriate for the function at hand. They are all just tools and they did invent an awful lot of hammer styles.
2a. You don't have time to switch lenses (a problem for wildlife shooters that shoot long primes)
4a. You want to sell your D2H but you need the charger and battery for your D300 grip and replacing the charger and battery would cost more than the camera is worth . (which I believe is true, and mainly why I still own it, and a sad state of affairs) _________________________________ Neil Nikonians Team My Gallery
#3b (if we mean different cameras relegated to different uses)
I haven't figured out how to load film into my digital bodies / My film camera(s) have been converted/relegated to use film.
#3b.1 - My F3HP is my only camera which has mirror lockup #3b.2 - My N2020 is the only camera fully compatible with my 1.6x TC which makes my MF lenses able to use AF. #3b.3 - My FE is lighter than my F3HP, so goes on hikes my F3 does not.
#5 I'm too poor to buy a digital FF camera, so to use my 20mm lens and have a FOV of ~90degrees, I can shoot film then scan it.
And the most important reason of all...
#6. Because I get a different 'feel' when using each of my cameras, each capable of bringing a different kind of joy to my photography.
In order to solve your 3b.2 you need someone in category 4 but without my 4a syndrome to sell you a D2H or D2X cheap. Then your TC16 will work (I am pretty sure with the D2X and I think with the D2H???- I thought about that for my 500/4P). _________________________________ Neil Nikonians Team My Gallery
Hello, Is the TC-16A modified in any way to work with the D2x or the 500mm f/4? Do you use the TC-16A with any other lenses? I have one that's collecting dust because I didn't think it could be used without damaging my current camera bodies and lenses!
I became aware of this last year or so when I ran into a wildlife photographer who was shooting, as I recall, a D2X and an MF 400/2.8. I am sure of the 400/2.8 part because we had a an extensive discussion of the relative merits of a 400/2.8 verses 500/4 or 600/4. I rarely see 400/2.8's at birding venues, the reason I distinctly recall this. I'll see a dozen 500/4 and 600/4's at this venue on any given weekend day in season. I'm 95% sure he had a D2X but it could have been a D2H (the reason for my equivocating above). He did not indicate that anything was other than stock, and I do not think there are any 400/2.8P (chipped) lenses.
I had a chance to play with it. You have to get the focus reasonably close because the TC has one or more moving elements with a rather narrow focusing range. If I had a D2X I would have bought one in a heartbeat because they are very inexpensive, I think. Having a D2H, it would have been somewhat counterproductive verses my D300 or D200's much higher sensor density and my alternative lenses, which included a 300/2.8 AFSII that performs quite well with a TC17.
My sense is that you surely could not track a bird in flight continuously although with great skill and a good perpendicular flight path you might squeeze in a short window after pre-focusing. I think you could track a bird slowly drifting in the water, or slowly walking, which was the attraction for me because I have trouble with that when using my 500P. The owner claimed that the F was very accurate. I did not shoot any images, just tried focusing and examined the results in the viewfinder.
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1a. You're not a professional, but you're going somewhere that the cost of the trip - in time, money, or opportunity - is worth the hassle of carrying around another body, in the event of a failure. Examples might be: an African safari, which most of us view as a once-in-a-lifetime event. Or something simpler, such as the trip I'm doing in October to go shoot for a week in the Smokies. It's an 8-hour drive, and I'm going there to do photography. If I leave a body at home and I have a failure, it's kind of a waste of time and effort, isn't it? Sure I would not be losing money as a pro would be, but I think it's an entirely reasonable thing to throw another body in the car as insurance against that.
or 2c + 3b: you're carrying a lens that benefits from DX density, and it's so big that there's kind of no point in economizing on weight, so another body is used for other purposes. I've got that right now - after I get the 400/f2.8 and monopod, it's a pretty small step to put the D2x on there and use the D3 for everything else.
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How about because you just LOVE cameras? Not as a collector, but as someone who likes to change and get a different feeling and experience each time, from F3HP to D700 to F6 to Contax 645 to Rolleiflex 2.8F to...
>How about because you just LOVE cameras? Not as a collector, >but as someone who likes to change and get a different feeling >and experience each time, from F3HP to D700 to F6 to Contax >645 to Rolleiflex 2.8F to... > >Hammam Ok, I enjoy collecting as well as shooting,that's why I own the folowing: F3, N8008, N70, N90s, F100, D100, D2H, D200, D300, and D700. I just seem to be attached,and sell trade or swoop never entered my mind. All 18 of my lense are ff so they can be used on any of the bodies Now I have assigned the D200 as my walk around take anywhere camera, for fun sports with the kids my D2H,and the work horses D300/D700. Not sure if I will ever shoot much film again, however I do get the urge to rough it with a F3 where everything is basic. Now this represents 20 years of what one may consider upgrading! Also this is my back up, to the back up, back up plan. I have had equipment service at Nikon and find they are not that reliable about 6 weeks turn around, and in addition the more circuits that are added to the digital marvals, the more paranoid I have become that one day I will put a fresh battery in the compartment and the camera will not respond
Rick, Brian, et al . . . yeah, yeah, sure, whatever. All good additions. But what about:
8. He who dies with the most cameras wins?
My salesman at Henry's in Toronto tells me this is a legitimate reason for buying every single new DSLR body that comes out. I believe him. I mean I've been giving this guy my business for 17 years, so he would never lie to me about this sort of thing, right?
9. You keep a camera at your real job for quick work related shots (photo directory, client visits, special programs, etc) and do want to bring it home every night or on weekends. This prevents cat fights between your cameras.
10. You have a special use situation for your camera, like Underwater Photography, and have the camera in a special housing and want a camera available outside of the housing.
11. Have a Nikon camear to take images of you modifications to your Nikon camera or other equiptment.
12. Have a camera that works tethered to you Epson P7000/60000.
13. I do not know how to change the media card in the camera.
14. I do not know how to charge or change the camera's battery.
You may be right and there may be no justification for it but personally I find it highly desirable to have both an FX camera and a DX camera. I have both a D700 and a D2x. If I could afford a D300 right now, I would get one and replace the D2x.
I also find it desirable to keep my D200 camera with the 18-200 lens in my date truck (the newest one) so I always have a camera with me. This also gives me something to do with that 18-200 lens since I would never choose it for taking a serious photo.
I also keep my D70 in my work truck with a couple of lenses since I often take pictures at work (I'm a house painter).
Four digital cameras doesn't seem strange to me at all.
I too like the flexibility having both an FX and a DX (D700, D90). In film days, when I was a pro, I traveled with 6 Nikon bodies. Working on my paranoia, I managed to cut that down to 4 bodies and then just 3. My first day out on the beach in Rio, 2 of my 3 bodies jammed. Paranoia returned. Over the phone, Nikon in the USA talked me through the two fixes.
Pessimists travel with extra cameras; Optimists travel with one.
On my most recent photography trip, I carried a D700, 24-70 f/2.8 and an 85mm f/1.4, plus a G10 for evenings when the weight of the D700 & 24-70 was just too much after a long day of wandering and exploring the back alleys of Paris. The 85 came out only for late night shooting.
If Nikon would (please) put some additional resources into designing and producing a truly stellar, advanced P&S, I'd dump my G10 and LX3 in a minute. Over the years, it has turned out that quite a few of my favorite shots have been made with compact backup cameras. Hmmm. For non-contract and non-project shooting I feel the reliability of my D70s, D200, D300 (all sold off) and now my D700 are unsurpassed. I've never felt the absolute need to carry a second body since developing great confidence in the unfailing reliability of my old D70s. When the inevitable happens and a lone body finally fails during a trip, I'll happily use my G10 (or, if I'm traveling even lighter, the delightful little LX3).
I'd like to be 100% Nikon, but until the company offers a top-of-the-heap compact or prosumer camera again (I really, really liked my old D5700 too), I've got to use the competition's gear as backup and lightweight evening shooter.
The other factor that has significantly affected my decision making is that I no longer check any luggage when traveling by plane. A carry-on 20" roller and my camera shoulder bag (Think Tank UD35 or Lowepro Classified 160 or Billingham Press Top 107 these days) is all I need for my urban street shooting walkabouts. A second body is just not in the cards when packing room is already necessarily tight. I don't feel it's any sort of sacrifice though. I also only travel with a main SLR body that I've had for a while and know well.
I do carry a sensor cleaning kit with me, along with a really good bulb blower, lenspen and cleaning cloths. I change lenses any time I want and no longer worry about dust. Successfully clean your sensor a few times and the associated stigma disappears without a trace, which then kind of negates the feeling that a second body with a different lens helps you to avoid dust-attracting lens changes.