How do you back up your pictures from long trips and no access to your laptap ? For example, if planning a trip to Rome or china for 10 days. Do you guys bring a lot of CF card and thats it or do you guys bring few CF cards but have a storage device of some sort to store your photos at night and format the card for the next day shoot ?
reason i asked is because i had friends that went to Burma for 12 days and they said they shot worth 150gigs of pictures. I almost dropped to the floor. They brought their laptap along as well as 500gigs lacie harddrive-something i dont want to do,
They must have held their finger on the shutter release and shot bursts. I would not want to post process that many pictures. In 12 days i might shoot 1000 to 1200 pictures max, but most likely less. So that would be 4 8 gb cards. I took a trip to France last year and shot about 650 images. It took me weeks to process them. I you are going to shoot so indiscrimiantely as your friends than I guess you do need a storage device.
>They must have held their finger on the shutter release and >shot bursts. I would not want to post process that many >pictures. In 12 days i might shoot 1000 to 1200 pictures max, >but most likely less. So that would be 4 8 gb cards. I took a >trip to France last year and shot about 650 images. It took me >weeks to process them. I you are going to shoot so >indiscrimiantely as your friends than I guess you do need a >storage device. ------------------------
One of them brought a D300 and on the 5th day, the shutter failed to work. Good thing he had a D90 to back him up.
Wed 11-Mar-09 12:23 AM | edited Wed 11-Mar-09 01:03 AM by agitater
I normally travel with a dozen 4GB-8GB cards stored in a compact Think Tank Pixel Pocket Rocket. Takes up very little space - it's no bigger than a wallet. I also travel with an Acer Aspire One netbook (160GB hard drive version, running Windows XP). I back up my shooting nightly to the Acer. I've never filled more than a dozen cards during a trip, and most of the time use fewer than eight cards.
I don't shoot sports or action of any kind, and I don't spray & pray. The most expensive film trip I ever took (1994? 1995?) was with my F90x and F100. I shot 41 rolls of Velvia - 1,476 photos. Everybody on that trip thought I was insane. "Are you really going to pay for all that processing?" they asked me. There were many memorable photos and about 15 truly worth printing. Now I (we? all of us?) go on trips and shoot five times that many photos with digital SLR cameras, but still only end up with the same number of keepers and print-worthy shots.
I just spent two weeks in the Galapagos Islands with D700 & D200 plus four eight gig CF cards. I shot raw compressed and deleted every day all duplicate or marginal images. I came home with about 1800 images of which I kept about 200.
I don't believe that quantity can make up for lack in quality.
I've read good things about Colorspace Hyperdrives at luminous-landscape.com. Also, Epson makes similar devices. They're a screen, some firmware, a card reader, and a hard disk drives wrapped into one device.
I would consider the idea just so I can have two copies of my images and could put them in two different bags; and on two different types of media. Or one in my carry on and another in a checked bag, or two different carry ones, etc. My past employment was in computer storage backup, recovery and archive for major enterprise data centers. I get paranoid on data integrity.
Adorama and B&H have big rebates on Lexar 300x UDMA CF cards right now. I got two 8GB cards with my 5-day old D700 (no, I'm not proud of my new baby.....
I'll be mailing in a $60 rebate for each card! At those final costs they become cheaper than SanDisk Extreme IV or Transcend 300x cards. Maybe this special will help you?
I have 1 Sanho Colorspace 160GB Hyperdrive. I purchased a few years ago for my D200. Small compact rechargeable, you can even get the AA battery pack which recharges the unit if you have no AC available.
I learned the trade with 4x5 inch cameras,and 6 film holders,total 12 negatives now i travel with a D700 and 2 x8giga CF and a mac pro laptop,but this is to me really an overkill. I am so used to look twice before taking a picture; all i need is 2gigs a day,i must precise i enjoy black and white landscape ed.
Whenever I can feel a Bach fugue in my work I know I have arrived EDWARD WESTON
This is the way to back up - I use the Epson P-3000 ( 40G capacity ) but I also bring my Lap Top so that Each night ( or next day early morning ) I transfer the photos I took that day and process them via Lightroom2 ( sorting - evaluating - filing - keywords etc..). Once done I save it to a small LaCie HD. When I get back home all is almost done - just have to transfer all to my permanent external HD. For your info go to Scott Kelby's blog - he has a good worflow - for all to use when travelling.
On vacation I usually average 100 shots per day (as Bob points out, this really is too many, and I probably keep only 20-30%).
I've never had a tonne of memory cards, but on a recent trip to France/Italy, I made due with about 12-16Gb in 4 cards, I also bring an Epson P-3000 (40Gb), and on the last trip I brought a 160 Gb 2.5" portable HD. I don't like to deal with laptops, but I've considered getting a 9" one for Wi-Fi access while abroad.
Keep in mind that in addition to sufficient capacity for shots, you want to think about backup. What if any/all the cards fail are lost or stolen?
I use an Epson P-6000 for backup "if really traveling light" because I love the fact that the P-6000 auto-detects when a CF card is inserted and you press one button and the backup process begins, so I can keep on shooting with a new CF card in the camera while the used card is being backed up at the same. For even double-backup when traveling, I bring my small 7" Acer Aspire One Netbook and the super slim Seagate 500GB FreeAgent Go Portable Hard Drive.
I try to NEVER erase a CF card until I've backed it up at least twice, so I always bring 4 CF cards with me and will continue to swap out the cards and backup to the Epson P-6000. If I'm forced to re-shoot on a CF card that is full, then I can do so since I know that the card has already been backed up on the P-6000. But if I'm not forced to re-shoot on a card, then I'll always backup to the P-6000 while out in the field, then backup to the Seagate 500GB FreeAgent Go Portable Hard Drive connected to the Acer Netbook when I get back to my hotel room. I never backup images to the Acer Netbook...unless there are a few images that are so stunning that I would never want to accidentally lose, then I'll copy those specific images to the Acer's hard drive as well for the extra peace of mind.
When I get home, all the images are then transferred to my photo editing system (and stored on those hard drives) which are two 750GB Seagate FreeAgent Desktop Drives. Then the Epson P-6000 eventually gets all images erased but I'll tend to leave the images on the Seagate 500GB FreeAgent Go Portable Hard Drive as a store away backup since those drives are so inexpensive, you can just buy another one when they fill up.
I too use the Colorspace device, only the UDMA model (I used the no-screen HD-80 before that).
Laptops are TOO cumbersome to tote around and are more tempting for thieves in hotels/airports/etc. I never try to process images in the fields, and if I want to send/read email, surf the Internet, etc., I just use my cell phone or a public PC in an Internet cafe, hotel or airport.
I agree about not re-formatting CF cards on a trip unless you have to. I keep working my way through my card stack until I've used them all, and only THEN re-format card one.
The density of CF cards is HUGE now, and prices are SMALL, comparatively. Still, CF card data is highly vulnerable until it is copied onto another device.
I back-up to the Colorspace device during each break in shooting, not only to capture the data, but so I can also "chimp" the day's images later without the D700 or laptop.
When I was on an Alaska cruise I had my files burnt on a dvd at the ships photo lab. If you are traveling you might be able to stop at any place that has a mini lab, Walgreens, or even a lot of large chain grocery stores have 1 hour photo labs. Go to a kiosk and copy to a cd. If you have a on line account it might be possible to upload files to your on line folder. (not sure about that. tho)
I do quite a bit of travel photog for my business (fishing) and find myself on boats in many remote parts of the world. Currently using 1-8gb Ducati and 2-16gb extreme iv's. While I would never fill these, even on a very long trip, I am more concerned with damage to the camera from water/spray and am willing to sacrifice a camera body for a great shot.
I keep my laptop running on the boat and utilize a delkin CF card reader plugged right into the express port. This thing is really fast.
Oh, i am usually shooting raw+jpg.
After each fish or series of shots (could be up to 200 images (400 total)) I take the CF card and copy it to the HD on my laptop. This gives me a backup immediately. IF the camera is damaged or worse, gone over the side I still have the images. IF I get a truly amazing group of shots, I will retire that CF card (after copying it) for that day.
I know this sounds like work but how easy will it be to get back to the Great Barrier Reef, 30 miles offshore chasing 1000lb.+ Black Marlin? A great shot is worth much more than the cost of a D700 or the extra time it takes to rip the CF card to the laptop.
Maybe a little overkill but better safe than sorry.