Hi, hoping someone will check my thinking. I was burning CD's for a print service and reading this forum when I had a thought. It takes as long to burn a CD as it does to make a print. I almost paid this service $700.00 to make a few prints for me. With that money I could buy the Epson 2200 and make my own. If I sent the printer 3 orders this size, I could have paid for an Epson 7600 which would give me the ultimate in size options.
What would you do? Buy a printer or pay a service?
I really really want the 7600 so I can print large 16x20 ect...!
Will prints from an Epson 7600 qualify in Galleries and shows as "Fine Art" as much as a giclee? Archival?
Thanks in advance! I really have learned so much here in such a short time.
#1. "Do you have the time?" | In response to Reply # 0RRowlett Charter MemberFri 09-May-03 11:30 AM
And how much do you value it? If you have the inclination and the time, there is simply no substitute for the total control you gain over the print-making process. But there is a very real learning curve to master the medium (Photoshop, Color management, mounting, etc.) Since I do this for fun, the pace of my own education is not a factor. I might think a bit differently if I was doing photography for a living, but would probably still eventually want total control over my product. Good luck in your deliberations...but a printer is going to be fun no matter what you think is best!
#2. "RE: Do you have the time?" | In response to Reply # 1Fri 09-May-03 11:46 AM
I really do want to eventually, over time, break into the fine art market. i know this is not a thing that happens quickly and i know to spite my best effort it may never happen.
this is a huge amount of money for me!
#3. "RE: To pay a printer or buy a printer?" | In response to Reply # 0
Epson Ultrachrome prints have a much longer (estimated of course) archival life than prints from Iris printers, the machines that first got acceptance of giclee prints for the art market.
I'm also looking into a wide carriage Epson and having it pay its way making giclee prints. Don't think just in terms of the printer's price for your costs. Some media like cloth canvas requires a protective coating. You may also need to look into lamination systems and other finishing equipment. The print media is expensive as are the inks. You should run matte black ink for matte surfaces, but changing over from photo black costs about $150 in waste ink on the wide printers. For efficient printing, you'll want to invest in a software rip at $1000 or more. A printer service contract is also an expense you need to at least consider, depending on how critical deadlines are to your business. You should also know the throughput of the printers so you can realistically project how many prints you can produce in a given time.
I'm attending an Epson Print Academy session at the end of the month to see if I can get enough information to make a decision on buying.
#5. "RE: To pay a printer or buy a printer?" | In response to Reply # 3Fri 09-May-03 02:07 PM
Hmmm! You certainly mention a lot of factors that I had not considered. Perhaps I will study more on this and do a cost benefit analysis with all factors included. This RIP retails for $1995.00 and I was hoping I could go without it since it's only me who will be using it.
I seriously doubt I will ever need more than 5 or 6 huge prints a month. But, stranger things have happened.
It's a big decision. Thanks again for all of your input. If you wouldn't mind sharing, I like to hear what you conclude as you seem very knowledgable on this topic.
#6. "RE: To pay a printer or buy a printer?" | In response to Reply # 5BJNicholls Charter MemberFri 09-May-03 06:16 PM
For small volume printing a RIP isn't usually needed or cost effective. I probably wouldn't buy Epson's Fiery RIP, there are several software RIPs out there that cost less and may perform better. A good large format RIP is designed so you can easily orient several images to fit media so there's a lot less waste (or time spent trying to do something similar with huge files via Photoshop).
Here's a resource that you might find valuable when evaluating large format printing resources for fine art and photos:
Beware that the info on the FLAAR site is good, but they most assuredly have strong biases that I don't always agree with.
I'll be sure to report what (if anything) I find of value at the Epson seminar. I hope it's worth giving up a Saturday for...