Is anyone using a mac (Powerbook G4) and either epson drivers (1280) or gimp drivers able to achieve true borderless printing? Epson states it does not support borderless for mac. Gimp wants to print borderless but it always leaves a tiny uneven margin on one side or another. Is borderless out of the question or am I doing something wrong? My guess would be the latter because I am a beginner but any ideas from mac and epson users to achieve this would be appreciated!
One more thing please?....Has anyone mounted inkjets on mat board and sprayed them with laquer for framing without glass? I wonder if you need a special laquer?
Any hidden secrets, suggestions, most welcome.
#1. "RE: mac and borderless?" | In response to Reply # 0BJNicholls Charter MemberThu 01-May-03 03:38 PM
I can't answer your specific question, but you should be aware that borderless printing compromises the print quality. Both Epson and Canon shift the print mode when the printhead passes near the end of the paper. In many cases, this creates an obvious lighter density stripe near the end of the print. In other cases, the stripe isn't obvious, but it is there if you look carefully.
If you want presentation quality borderless prints, print on larger paper and trim them down. Borderless is more difficult to matte, so unless you have a display that requires borderless prints, why not leave a substantial border as many art prints do?
If you are going to display a dye based print from your 1280 without glazing, you had better use an effective sealing spray or a plastic overlamination. From experience, I can tell you that Epson's recommendation for storing prints in plastic sleeves and displaying them protected by glass is due to the problem of rapid oxidation of the dyes, especially the cyan dye. I've had prints exposed to air lose all cyan color in a matter of weeks. Dependind on airflow, ozone, humidity, etc. you may or may not get a few months without obvious fading on an unprotected print. Or you could have a print fade overnight, as I've seen reported many times.
#2. "RE: mac and borderless?" | In response to Reply # 1Thu 01-May-03 05:23 PM
Point taken on borderless printing. I will heed your advise.
Now, as for the spray. if you don't mind I would like to get very specific as this is my very first commission and it's from my priest. We have a very old church with Tiffany stained glass windows and they are simply gorgeous on digital film. She (the priest ~ Episcopal not Catholic) wants very large prints, so I thought of using the rolls of paper to make them (it was going to be 13" but after reading your post) 12" (to leave the border) by whatever (30" or so) They are very tall skinny windows. She wants to hang them in a little chapel at the Boy's Home. I thought glass may be too heavy for a print that large.
I have never done anything like this before so bear with me if I sound ignorant.
Now, after reading your post, do you think I should take the photos and print them on my premium lustre paper and place them on my copy stand and reshoot them using slide fillm and then send them to a pro print service who will mount them and lacquer them for me? Is their a pro print service who will perform this service with a digital file. Will it last as long as a chrome print? I am thinking out loud here. I want to give her a product that will last.
If these turn out good I may put them out for sale and donate 10% of the proceeds to the church. I think they would make a very nice set of cards as well.
I may be outside of the scope of this forum now, but it sounds like you are very knowledgeable in this area, so if you know the best way for me to proceed, your input will be most welcome.
The reason I'd like to use digital and reshoot them is that we have some film prints taken by other people hanging around and they just don't do the windows justice. When I run Miranda's DV action and his interpolator (don't have Genuine fractals yet. My God, they're so gorgeous I can hardly believe they're photographs, much less that I actually took them. (Not trying to brag but this is one subject where digital is awesome!)
(i hope none of them are a member of this forum - that would be so embarrassing - i feel sure they were taken years ago before digital was even invented - no offense intended)
#3. "RE: mac and borderless?" | In response to Reply # 1Thu 01-May-03 07:21 PM
One more thing....
it is kind of scary to think that a print from a digital file would deteriorate so quickly. I have never heard of this and now after reading your post, I am wondering if it is a smart way to go for prints? Are there alternatives with a solid long lasting result. I have family photos from the 1800's that are in better condition than the colored prints my parents took in the 50's & 60's. What is going on here? Is there a place I can go and study this?
#4. "RE: mac and borderless?" | In response to Reply # 3Thu 01-May-03 08:29 PM
BJ - I'm sorry to slam you w/ 3 consecutive posts but I have some real concerns and I think your voice of experience can help me sort through them.
Epson Stylus Photo 2000
Amazing lightfastness, rated at 200+ years for framed prints on Epson Archival Matte Paper. Border Free photo printing on some paper sizes. True, six-color photo printer using pigmented inks for long print life. 1440 dpi for smooth, sharp photos.
May be time for a new printer. Imaging Resouce states this will last 175 years longer than my Epson 1280 prints which they give 25 years behind glass.
Hmmm...this is all very confusing and I DO NOT want to start out selling a bunch of crap that will fade in a few days, months, years? and ruin my reputation before I get off the ground.
I guess my current printer would be good for....nothing...if I expect to be compensated for my labor and product and not have an angry mob come after me demanding their money back...oh god...i'm gonna have nightmares!
WHO ARE WE TO BELIEVE?