Based on some good things I read here about Ilford papers, I'm trying a sampler pack.
I have an Epson 1280 printer and PS 7 and I'm following the instructions that came with the Ilford papers. The instructions say I may need to deal with a magenta colour cast by reducing magenta -5 to -7. But how do I do that?
I generally print using "Print with Preview", choose the appropriate paper, and follow Ian Lynon's web site instructions. I choose "Custom" and then "No colour management" in the printer settings. Works fine with Epson papers.
But if I do that, I have no choice in the printer settings to reduce magenta. I printed like this without any adjustment, and things definitely look purple. So, I turned off "no colour management" and moved the magenta slider to -7. I got way, way MORE purple!
I'm confused - do I adjust the magenta within PS first, by moving the magenta/green slider within colour adjustments?
(I'm at work right now and don't have the papers or PS with me, but I think I'm using Classic Pearl - anyway, it's one where they say you "may" need to adjust magenta. And I'm choosing the paper type they suggest as well - "glossy film", I think. And, I soft proof with that profile within PS before I send it to the printer.)
Hope this isn't too esoteric a question - but it's not cheap paper and I'd like to cut down on the trial and error. Thanks
#1. "RE: Ilford papers - magenta reduction" | In response to Reply # 0apl007 Registered since 19th Dec 2002Thu 20-Mar-03 04:30 PM
I use Smooth Pearl, use E-1280,
Adobe 1998, no paper profile,
instruct the printer to use color management
and set paper to 'photo glossy film' and
get excellent color matching...
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#2. "RE: Ilford papers - magenta reduction" | In response to Reply # 1dfg Basic MemberFri 21-Mar-03 03:55 AM
Thanks AP, but I'm having no luck at all - must be doing something wrong.
I printed the picture with my usual settings and Epson matte heavyweight and it came out with perfect colour, so I know the picture and printer are fine.
I did a sheet on Smooth Pearl and tried to follow your method, but got serious purple again. Here's what I did from PS7, (with my normal colour space as Adobe RGB (1998)):
- File / print...
- Photo quality glossy film
- Mode / custom / advanced ...
- Under "Color management", "color controls" is checked
- "Epson natural color" is not checked
- Mode is "automatic", and all colour sliders are at zero
I see from the Ilford package that all they say is to use media type "photo quality glossy film".
I also got purple prints using Classic Gloss and Classic Pearl. For those papers, the instructions say ""Color Preferences" may require a minus magenta cast removal (5-7)". I tried a couple of variations on those ones, including a -7 magenta with the sliders in the print settings (and that one came out more purple than when at zero). The best one of that bunch was when I went:
- File / print with preview...
- Print space as Epson Stylus Photo 1290 Photo Quality Glossy Film
- Mode / custom / advanced ...
- checked "No color adjustment"
The only good thing is that I've been using a picture of my cat to test this, and my daughter saw one of the extreme purple ones, thought it was really cool and took it home. But I'm out about 10 bucks in paper and ink and am no closer to understanding what is wrong.
Any help from anyone appreciated ....
#3. "RE: Ilford papers - magenta reduction" | In response to Reply # 2esantos Nikonian since 10th Nov 2002Fri 21-Mar-03 07:23 PM
Here is what I do and I get excellent results with the classic pearl.
Colorspace: AdobeRGB1998 for the file and the printer.
Paper: Photo Quality Glossy Film
Color Management: Custom, advanced, Epson PhotoEnhance with the settings set to vivid and sharpness set to maximum(I usually don't over sharpen my files, I find that this adds just enough for printing).
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#4. "RE: Ilford papers - magenta reduction" | In response to Reply # 2Scooter Charter MemberSat 22-Mar-03 04:04 AM
I am using the Epson 1280 also and my settings are this:
Photo Quality Glossy Film
Epson Natural color not checked
I am running my monitor in sRGB and using color management for sRGB
It matches very well with what I see on the monitor.
hope this helps