I asked about this a long, long time ago, but I still haven't really figured it out.
When I print choosing the "borderless" option, the printer lops off a bit of the print. I wondered if I had a setting wrong or something, but I now found this in the Help files:
"Because this feature enlarges the image to a size slightly larger than the paper size when Sheet Feeder is selected as the Paper Source setting, the portion of the image that extends beyond the edges of the paper will not be printed."
So, my question is this: has anyone done the exercise of figuring out just how much is missing at differerent sizes?
For example, when I print an 8.5 x 11 borderless print, there should be some size to make the image in Photoshop before printing, to make it just fit on the paper following the Epson gross-up (e.g., maybe 8.45 x 10.96 or something). I could probably figure it out with a bunch of trial and error, but I'd like to save the paper and ink, and my time.
Any advice gratefully appreciated.
#1. "RE: Epson 1280 - borderless printing size" | In response to Reply # 0apl007 Registered since 19th Dec 2002Tue 04-Feb-03 05:37 PM
I would approach this from a strictly
Measure the overage on a slighly larger
paper ( 11x14).
this known, or estimated, in your
printer settings select
layout, reduce/enlarge, scale, custom = %
use the % needed from your estimate...
As an aside, having a border is very useful
if you plan on matting prints. Good luck,
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#2. "RE: Epson 1280 - borderless printing size" | In response to Reply # 1dfg Basic MemberTue 04-Feb-03 06:16 PM
Good thinking - thanks.
It'll probably take a couple of prints - one in each direction - because the leading edge is going to get lopped off a bit no matter what (because the printer thinks it's supposed to print right to the edge even if I've put bigger paper in). But I can use cheap paper, and just print an image of a couple lines going from edge to edge which I can measure.
If I get this figured out, I'll post the settings I end up with.
#3. "RE: Epson 1280 - borderless printing size" | In response to Reply # 0
I've done this a little differently. 35mm film is approx 24x36, correct? That gives a ratio of 1:1.5. 8.5x11 paper has a ratio of 1:1.29, so obviously your going to lose some of the frame. Simple math, no?
After figuring out the ratio of the print paper, I do a constrained ratio crop to take the frame as close as I can to the paper ratio, which also allows me to use the crop that I want.
#4. "RE: Epson 1280 - borderless printing size" | In response to Reply # 0
Yes, I have wasted many sheets of paper on this endeavor. Oddly enough, this big effort came about because I was printing xmas cards with a cute border. When I printed them on my 1280 (or at my local camera / print store) the pictures were being enlarged and printed, pushing part of my border out of the picture.
For some reason, this set me off in pursuit of the settings that will get a correctly scaled picture, not only in the final width/height, but also so that things are correctly dimensioned within the picture. So, if you have a ruler drawn on your page, it will end up printing accurately. By default, they won't be accuarately scaled.
I found the following settings in the "File->Print Options" dialog produce the best results for my particular set-up. I suspect they will work well for other set-ups too, but I don't know what might effect them, so I am not sure.
For 8.5" x 11":
. Set scale to 97.3%
. then uncheck the "Center Image" checkbox
. then set position to (To .2 points, Left:7.8 points).
. Set scale to 95.3%
. Top:6.7 points, Left: 8.4 points
I have these settings pasted on the bottom of my monitor so I always have them handy.
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