I have a Canon MP140, it works and the photo's are OK, but it is getting a little long in the tooth and my wife wants a printer in her office rather than share one between our two offices (its a small house but we manage to have two offices )
I'm considering a few models
I recently tried the Epson Artisan 837 and took it back to Staples after the printer just devoured almost all the ink in five colour cartridges printing just FOUR 4x6 prints. Must have been either a bad printer or bad ink. I did get an email from Epson saying that these machines must prime the printhead but really, almost all the ink from five cartridges. Something was wrong, might have been a bad set of cartridges or bad printer or ?? . Anyway, that printer was returned for full refund.
Now I can try another Artisan 837 ($250 new, $120 refurbished).
OR try the Epson Expression Photo XP-850 All-in-One Printer, it takes the same set of inks and is $299
Or do I want to go to a wide format printer like the Epson Stylus Photo R2880 Printer which is $476 after mail in rebate of $150. It takes 8 cartridges @ $15 each.
. . .
OR do I look at the Canon system. Their less expensive photo printers are still using six cartridges but have two black, a grey and only three colours, compared to Epson's five colour plus one black. I suspect (but may be wrong about this suspicion) that the Canon gives better B&W whereas the Epsons colour should be better ~ no?
Anyway the Canons under consideration include the:
PIXMA MG8220 PHOTO ALL-IN-ONE which Henry's has on for a steal of deal at $129 marked down from $350. (Makes me ask why?), or the MP990 at $350, or I go wide and get the PIXMA Pro9500 Mark II Printer for $400 (marked down from $899 at Vistek) that printer takes 10 $20 cartridges.
I want it first for printing photo's in various sizes up to 8x10. Not sure how often I'd print larger images, and think that for the few times I might want to do this, I can get it printed at the local photo shop. How many big prints can I hang on my walls??? So I'm leaning more towards the less expensive all-in-one's rather than the more expensive wide format printers, but I'm considering all options.
This would be the printer in my office (my wife will get the old MP140 for her office on the lower level) so it will also be used to print the odd letter or map from Google Maps, or maybe a card. So it need general all round use. I like the idea of printing CD's and bought a spindle of 50 printable CD's for the Artisan. (But I do have Lightscribe burner and lots and lots of Lightscribe disks so not a deal maker but a nice to have feature).
I have a good HP scanner that does slides and negatives so the scanner is just gravy, a document feed scanner is a nice touch, not sure if I'd use it but nice to have. Fax, who still faxes? Not me. So the "all in one" for me means able to print photo's but still do a good job on basic document printing too. I'm not in school nor taking any courses so my printing needs are limited.
I'm not thinking of selling my prints so they are just for personal use and sharing photographs with friends. Might put together an album someday, or not.
AND I would like a printer that is not going to empty my wallet every time it needs a cartridge.
Any lemons to avoid??
My leaning right now is for the deal at Henry's for a PIXMA MG 8220 ($129) or try a refurbished Artisan 837 ($119.00) but am I being penny wise and pound foolish here? Both machines are regularly $279 (the 837) or $350 (the 8220) so they are not $100 units.
#1. "RE: New Printer Advice" | In response to Reply # 0jrp Charter MemberWed 19-Dec-12 01:00 AM
It would help for better answers/suggestions to know what is the intended use of the photo prints, to get a feel for the quality requirements.
Another factor is the normal or average intensity of use (size and number of prints/week or month)
Knowing your budget for it would also be good to have.
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#3. "RE: New Printer Advice" | In response to Reply # 1Wed 19-Dec-12 05:48 AM
>It would help for better answers/suggestions to know what is
>the intended use of the photo prints, to get a feel for the
>Another factor is the normal or average intensity of use (size
>and number of prints/week or month)
>Knowing your budget for it would also be good to have.
Budget, for the right printer I might go as high as $500, but I'd rather not pay more than I have to, if a $120 refurbished 837 will do the job then no point in buying the $500 model because it's on a great discount.
Normal use? I can go a month or so without printing anything then will print up a batch of photo's for a special event. I'd like to be able to create a few nice prints to hang on the wall, but can't justify a wide format printer to print a few (less than 10) images that I might put on the wall. From time to time I want to print a document, if I had to guess it might average up to 10 printed pages a month.
When I was in buying my new lens today (DX 35mm prime) I noticed that the local photoshop has a new set of printer stations where you can sit down and print off the images you want, in the size you want. Another reply suggested that for 4x6 prints it is cheaper to get them done at the shop not at home. (But I have like 500 4x6 photo blanks to print and maybe 100 8x10 pages, I'm set for a very long time of printing at home). There is also a photo station at the local grocery store and at the Walmart in the next town.
I'm thinking that either the Canon one for $129 or the refurbished Epson at $119 might do the trick. Both are six colour systems, a lot less expensive than the 8 or 10 colour sets (but probably run out faster, I wonder if there is anywhere where they rate these machines on the cost per print?
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#2. "RE: New Printer Advice" | In response to Reply # 0
I can't make specific recommendations, but I do have a few pointers:
• Generally speaking, when you set up a new printer a lot of ink will drain from the cartridges to "charge" the system — fill the lines from the cartridges to the print head.
• That said, high quality photo inkjet printers use a lot of ink. That's why some pro models have extended ink systems with quart bottles as feeds.
• I find your planned usage interesting. Printing 6x4 prints is more expensive at home than at your local photofinisher. Print the vacation snapshots outside. For larger prints you may be able to obtain better results at home where you can print and tweak.
• I no longer print anything at home but still recommend Epson.
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#4. "RE: New Printer Advice" | In response to Reply # 0
I don't know if the same model is available where you are, but I use an Epson Stylus Office BX925 "all-in-one" as my everyday printer (alongside an Epson Stylus Photo R2000 as my main photo printer). I do occasionally use the BX925 for a quick photo print, and it does a decent job. For printing of text etc, scanning and copying it's fine. Ink seems to last a decent amount of time.
I agree with the view that printing a large number of small photos would be cheaper at a print shop or online.
#5. "RE: New Printer Advice" | In response to Reply # 0
The reality is that all-in-ones are always a compromise. They do a lot of things well but not one single thing great. Some printers can do double duty as photo printers and document printers. If you are concerned about the cost of ink to the point where you want to go to the trouble of calculating the cost of ink per print (a laborious process fraught with variables) then you may not want to be using a great photo printer to print out text documents. That is the economics of the situation. My view is that if you enjoy printing your own photos at home and having that convenience you should probably invest in a good photo printer dedicated for print making and buy a second low cost printer for everyday home office use. This way you can anticipate your ink costs of the long haul and if you still want to calculate your cost per print you don't have the occasional text document skewing your sample data.
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#6. "RE: New Printer Advice" | In response to Reply # 5quenton8 Nikonian since 11th Apr 2010Wed 19-Dec-12 08:15 PM | edited Wed 19-Dec-12 08:16 PM by quenton8
I have used three (3) printers
- cheap Canon
- cheap Epson
- Epson 2880
The canon worked well, no serious ink problems. The cheap epson was nothing but trouble, constantly having to run the cleaning process and using way too much ink for nothing.
The cheap canon and epson produced "ok" photos, but both used dye-based inks, and both had ink-run problems even weeks after printing.
Based on advice from this forum, I purchased the 2880 and in coming up 2 years have had no problems of any kind. If I were purchasing now it might be the 3000 which uses larger ink cartridges, but the 2880 has been great and only cost me $400 (with end of life mail-in-rebate).
I constantly get comments about "great prints" and "where did you get the done", which I never got with the cheaper printers.
I print at home because I can, because I can have it "now" and because its fun, and because I hate walking around the big stores that do printing locally!
#7. "RE: New Printer Advice" | In response to Reply # 6Wed 19-Dec-12 11:01 PM
>I have used three (3) printers
>- cheap Canon
>- cheap Epson
>- Epson 2880
>The canon worked well, no serious ink problems. The cheap
>epson was nothing but trouble, constantly having to run the
>cleaning process and using way too much ink for nothing.
>The cheap canon and epson produced "ok" photos, but
>both used dye-based inks, and both had ink-run problems even
>weeks after printing.
>Based on advice from this forum, I purchased the 2880 and in
>coming up 2 years have had no problems of any kind. If I
>were purchasing now it might be the 3000 which uses larger ink
>cartridges, but the 2880 has been great and only cost me $400
>(with end of life mail-in-rebate).
>I constantly get comments about "great prints" and
>"where did you get the done", which I never got with
>the cheaper printers.
>I print at home because I can, because I can have it
>"now" and because its fun, and because I hate
>walking around the big stores that do printing locally!
Thanks for the input.
By "cheap" you mean the Artisan style which are about $300 retail (but often sold for less) and not the $100 disposable printers with just two cartridges.
I'll have to take a harder look at the Epson 2000, 2880 or 3000. The first two both are listed as $499 Direct from Epson, the 3000 is $649. I did see them on for half price a London Drugs in the summer, wish I had bought one then, but sales come and go and I'm not in a hurry.
Maybe I'll pick one up on a big boxing day sale. I'll have to see who carries them.
#8. "RE: New Printer Advice" | In response to Reply # 7Sat 29-Dec-12 09:43 PM
Economy won out. Picked up an Epson Artisan 837 at Staples for $99. Eventually I'll get a Stylus R series printer and the Artisan can be my All-in-one document printer. I just could not justify the $ at this time and the Artisan is a significant step up over the two ink cartridge printer I have now.