Since my retirement a few years ago, I have been able to focus more time on my love for the complete process of photography from photo, post editing, printing, then matting. The problem is that since my last film camera, Nikon N90 the whole world has changed!
The editing software from Nikon Capture NX2 was somewhat of a long learning curve and I really got hung up with the color management and printing issues. The Nikonian’s forum members have been very tolerant of my endless questions regarding my printing issues with my Epson R1800. I studied color management until it was making my eyes bleed. Ernesto suggested that I document my work flow process and look at a control study. (Outstanding advice!)
Late last spring, I took my Epson R1800 to an authorize Epson repair center. $85.00 and one week later, I was told that “no problem found” and they printed a color test page on plain paper that was perfect.
I began a control study with my Epson R1800 printer when I got home. I used a sample jpg file from windows sample pictures, (i.e. not my jpg) I used Windows photo viewer and windows color management. (Great print) then I use windows photo viewer and gave the Epson R1800 color management control (great print) then I moved to Nikon Capture NX2 print control, Print was a little less then great, but ok. Then I gave the Epson R1800 color management control, again print was good but not great.
A few months have now passed and I can’t get a good print to save my life. So what changed ? I’m suspicious that there was a conflict problem with windows vista, but I now have windows 7 32bit and also maybe with my Epson V700 scanner software. I had uninstalled the scanner software when I upgraded from windows vista to windows 7, however this was done before I took my R1800 to the Epson repair dealer.
I decided that I would run Epson Maintained cycles for head and nozzle cleaning + check, also head alignment until I used up all my ink, then trash my R1800 printer, Seriously I ran the head and nozzle cleaning for maybe 1hr and 12+ cycles, then head alignment (both manual and automatic) until I did not receive any error messages.
So… with all this said I would like to provide a few scanned sample print images for your review to see if you reach the same conclusions. I know that the printer has not been physically jarred since returning from the repair dealer.
Is there something I may be overlooking?
Can you see the lines through each jpg? these prints were scanned after printing today.
Thanks as always for your help!
This is one of my prints after the epson service dealer inspection
This is the lines I get all the time. Printer head alinement ?
I don't even know what this is ? Head Alinement?
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#1. "RE: Good ole Epson R1800 Update" | In response to Reply # 0mklass Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Sat 14-Jul-12 01:43 PM | edited Sat 14-Jul-12 01:44 PM by mklass
The banding in the 2nd could be caused by bad head alignment, but the results in the third suggest very badly clogged print heads.
How old are your cartridges? Are the genuine Epson cartridges? Not refills?
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#2. "RE: Good ole Epson R1800 Update" | In response to Reply # 1dgberg Registered since 25th Aug 2007Sat 14-Jul-12 01:58 PM | edited Sat 14-Jul-12 02:02 PM by dgberg
You said you ran the nozzle/clean check 12 times?
But never said what the results were?
Run a check,if somethings clogged run a clean then another nozzle check.
Do not keep running checks and cleans.
The goal to start with is to get a good nozzle check across the board.
#4. "RE: Good ole Epson R1800 Update" | In response to Reply # 2Sun 15-Jul-12 02:21 AM
Yes, I do print the nozzle color test pattern each cycle,then I run the nozzle clean cycle, then I print another nozzle color test page and so forth.
I can easly do this 12 cycles of this and never get a complete printer test patter, yet Epson was ably to provide me a very good print test page.
I just keep testing until i run out of ink, then it becomes a boat Anchor.
I really hope to learn something if I'm wrong,
By taking the printer apart one day, Maybe I'll understand how this work.
#3. "RE: Good ole Epson R1800 Update" | In response to Reply # 1Sun 15-Jul-12 01:57 AM
Hi Mick !!
#1). Based on my limited understanding of all this, when you suggest a clogging as a possible issue, are we talking about a CLOGGING within each of the color cartridge Nozzles or are talking about clogging in the head (heads)? Or can the nozzle and head both be clogged at the same time? In any case, I’m running the auto nozzle check and cleaning.
Seriously, I do run the Epson test lines and boxes over and over until the test page is may 98% good. The 98But got these missing color two or three weeks
All my ink cartridges (using now and backups) have always been purchased from Epson store online. And I’ve checking each cartridge for expiration dates nothing is 5 months.
#2 With regards to head alignment, I get an error message 50% of the time that says that I need to run the head alignment manually. I don’t use this printer very often because I’m always struggling with maintenance, cleaning, and alignment issues
One more clue, I made a shelving unit over the computer housing the computer, 24” monitor, and some software manuals. The Epson R1800 printer sets on the first shelf over the computer and dell 24” monitor.
Question: Since my printer sets directly over the top of my computer and monitor, can these RF or some kind magnet frequency interfere with my computer to printer communion.
Question: I also have small pair of Bose speakers on each side of the R1800 printer, Could the be a problem?
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#5. "RE: Good ole Epson R1800 Update" | In response to Reply # 3Luke_Miller Nikonian since 19th Apr 2006Sun 15-Jul-12 10:53 AM
I had the same problem with my R1800. After several years of flawless operation I got clogs that I could not clear. Even a head cleaning liquid that dissolved clogs on previous printers failed to clear the ones on the R1800. I replaced it with the R3000 which I highly recommend.
#6. "RE: Good ole Epson R1800 Update" | In response to Reply # 5Sun 15-Jul-12 04:10 PM
I really appreciate your story. I have posted and beaten my R1800 print problems in to the digital ground with this forum.
It has been my hopes to learn the root cause of my printing issues… before I run out and buy another printer, but I guess that this is the mystery side of the Epson printing world.
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#7. "RE: Good ole Epson R1800 Update" | In response to Reply # 6mklass Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Mon 16-Jul-12 09:19 AM
You may be at the stage I got to with my R1800, it just became unreliable. Whether I use up the printhead lift or nozzle life or what, I do not know. But it just stopped making decent prints reliably.
I think I would look at a new printer. If you're happy with the features of the R1800, go for an R2000. I think you will find that Epson has vastly improved the automatic head and nozzle maintenance. I replaced by R1800 with an R1900 4 years ago and it is very much trouble free.
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