I hope this is in the correct section. I was actually looking for a section on paper, but this is the closest I found.
I come from the old days of wet processing. I had my hands in chemicals since I was about 10-years-old. I never could bring myself to use tongs, but that is another matter. do you suppose that is why my kids have three eyeballs???
Anyhow, I had a paper recommendation from a local friend whom I respect as an excellent photographer with great style and vision. He suggested that the Staples photo papers were very good at a fraction of the cost of the big boys.
I am just converting over to digital, and picked up a Canon Pro9000 Mk II for a song. I went out to get some Staples brand photo paper for it. I started with the Photo Supreme in High Gloss for small test shots, and general printing for my daughter's snapshots.
I liked the paper, but was looking for a traditional matte surface and bought some large sheets of Photo Supreme Matte. This is NOT what I was looking for. This is more like card stock than photo paper. I printed a couple of 8X10's on it and was surprised at how much they curled up after they came out of the printer. I let them dry out for a day and they more or less flattened out, but I am concerned that they will not hold up well to humidity when I mount them and place them in a frame. I admit that they look okay, but they don't seem to have the same snap as I would expect from a paper coated with an emulsion layer.
So, I am guessing that matte in the digital printing world is not the same as the old matte papers I would buy from Kodak, Agfa and Ilford back in the good old days.
What should I be using for a slightly textured photo paper for this Canon that will remind me of the papers I used to use when I had a darkroom?
Thanks for your help!
#1. "RE: Paper Selections" | In response to Reply # 0mklass Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Thu 12-Jul-12 03:16 PM
I suggest that you look at photo quality papers from some of the reliable vendors. Aside from just the paper itself, in this digital age you need to consider if the printer is using the right profile for the paper so it renders the image in the proper colors as you see them on your screen. For that matter, you need to be sure you have color calibrated your computer and screen to achieve predictable, repeatable results.
That said, Canon papers should automatically give you excellent results with minimal hassles. Your printer should already be set up to use the paper correctly.
Red River Paper is an excellent source of quality, less expensive papers. They offer a huge variety (for your needs, Aurora Natural or White would seem to fit the bill) and they have color profiles for most printer/paper combinations. These come with all the information that you need to set your printer.
Ther are many other sources: Ilford, Moab, Hahnemuhle, Breathing Color, to name a few. But those are more expensive.
Using store brand or cheap paper will probably just give you poor results.
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#2. "RE: Paper Selections" | In response to Reply # 1quenton8 Nikonian since 11th Apr 2010Thu 12-Jul-12 07:18 PM
Staples brands vary from batch to batch (quite a bit, even to the naked eye before printing).
Try asking a staples salesperson (or even head office) about "printer profiles" for their paper --- "Printer What???"
For less expensive I would try Red River -- I used them, and still do for some freebee work I do for our Church, but I use Epson for my own prints (I have an Epson printer).
#3. "RE: Paper Selections" | In response to Reply # 2mklass Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Thu 12-Jul-12 08:11 PM
I should have mentioned, Red River has an inexpensive sample pack with two 8.5x11 sheets of each of their papers. You might want to give it a try: http://www.redrivercatalog.com/samples/photographers-choice-inkjet-paper-sampler.html
The Red River ICC Profiles for your printer are here: http://www.redrivercatalog.com/profiles/canon-pro-9000-mkii-color-profiles.html
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#4. "RE: Paper Selections" | In response to Reply # 3Patrick604 Nikonian since 24th Jun 2012Fri 13-Jul-12 04:36 AM
Thanks for the input guys. I will try the Red River sample pack and see what I think of that. I always liked the Ilford B&W papers in the past for standard prints, although I preferred Agfa fiber based papers for top quality prints. Perhaps I will give them a try as well.
I don't mind spending for quality when I get a shot I really like, but I am looking for something more economical while I am learning how to use PSE and the printer. Once I feel I have that dialed in, I will explore other options.
#5. "RE: Paper Selections" | In response to Reply # 4blw Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004Fri 13-Jul-12 09:05 AM
> I don't mind spending for quality when I get a shot I really like, but I am looking for something more economical while I am learning how to use PSE and the printer.
Unfortunately this is a bit like trying to learn how to play Fenway Park's Green Monster by playing left field in a minor league stadium. MUCH of what you need to learn is very explicitly about the interaction between your paper, your ink and your software. Using a different ink/paper combination will just delay your learning. My advice is to settle on some papers that you like, and then learn them with small prints to economize. You can do a bunch of 2x3's on an 8x10 page, for example.
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#6. "RE: Paper Selections" | In response to Reply # 5quenton8 Nikonian since 11th Apr 2010Fri 13-Jul-12 10:09 AM
Working with one for a while is good advice.
I figure it took me over a year to settle on what I use mostly now which is Epson Premium Lustre.
I used Red-River Arctic Polar Gloss for some time, thinking I really liked a high gloss (strange since I never had a high-gloss in the darkroom, used Ilford papers, but no press to create the gloss).
But that is the paper I learned on -- but with a few Red-River Lustre prints along the way I finally knew I preferred the Lustre.
I did start with the sample pack and that helped too.