I am considering a Epson printer and I would like to hear from those of you who have experience with the Epson 2880 and the Epson 3800. What I am looking for is print quality and whether or not the new Inks in the newer line of the printers, like in the 2880 are that much better than in the 3800. The only thing I can find about this on-line, really does'nt tell me like user's could tell me. I know that the 3800 is a wider format at 17 inch's wide and I like that but is it already outdated and like I say is the newer inks a better quality of print.
Thanks to all.
#2. "RE: New Epson Ink's ( 2880 versus 3800)" | In response to Reply # 1TiggerGTO Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2006Sat 10-Jan-09 12:22 PM
I started to reply when I first saw this topic and then realized I didn't know enough definitive information to write anything of use. The only thing I know for sure is that the 3800 is getting a bit "long in the tooth" and I assume it will be updated some time this year (3880?).
I have a 3800 and have been very pleased with the results. I really don't know what the difference is between the inks used in this printer and the newer 2880. I was also hoping some of the more knowledgeable Nikonians would post.
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#3. "RE: New Epson Ink's ( 2880 versus 3800)" | In response to Reply # 0
Your best bet is to contact Epson and ask them to send you print samples of each printer. Then you can evaluate the inks for yourself. It is not that Nikonians are not helpful it is just that your question is very specific. I don't think there are many folks out there that would happen to have both printers and would be in a position to offer their opinions or insights.
I have print samples made with Ultrachrome, Ultrachrome K3 (3800), Ultrachrome K3 with Vivid Magenta (R2880), and the new Ultrachrome HDR. When viewed side by side you can see an incremental improvement from one inkset to the next. When viewed independently you can see the difference from the older Ultrachrome to the K3, and certainly from the HDR inks. Now, is it enough of a difference to wait for the next model? Only you can answer that question.
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#4. "RE: New Epson Ink's ( 2880 versus 3800)" | In response to Reply # 3Yachtsman Registered since 10th Jun 2006Sat 10-Jan-09 10:03 PM
Just as in the previous responses, I can only speak for the R2880.
Printing on Epsum Premium Glossy it does a superb job. I have printed at 180ppi and the results are indistinquishable to 360ppi. I have also done some tests on Hahnemuhle textured fine art papers and again the results are stunning.
I am unable to comment about the K3 ink set because to me it is the same as my previous dye ink printer. Maybe that means it's an advance on previous pigment inks? I don't know. Certainly I've gone from A4's with a lifespan if I'm lucky counted in Decades to a3+'s with lifes of hundreds of years without any drop in quality.
But Epson like stupid gimmicks. The stupid gimmick on the R2880 is the front manual feed. It seems to be good for absolutely nothing. It is alledgedly used for thick media, anything from 1mm to 1.3mm in thickness. The head or platen height cannot be adjusted to suit the media and produces very poor quality if not close to the media surface. Epson will not, or cannot explain what media should be used via this feed!
#5. "RE: New Epson Ink's ( 2880 versus 3800)" | In response to Reply # 0
I am sorry for my earlier statement due to frustration. It seems perfectly logical now in hine-sight that my question is without a specific way to answer. I guess I just wasn't thinking to clearly. I really appreciate the responces and opinions you all have posted. I'll try and post better questions in the future for sure.
#6. "RE: New Epson Ink's ( 2880 versus 3800)" | In response to Reply # 5fastbike Registered since 01st Oct 2004Thu 15-Jan-09 12:31 PM
While you're thinking about the issue, here'e a quote from Voltaire for your consideration:
"The better is the enemy of the good".
I offer this since none of the folks viewing my prints from the 3800 have offered their condolences for my having to use and outdated printer.
All of the Epsons offer great prints, all have one quirk or another, you need to understand the quirks and the features and decide which things you must have and which you can ignore.
For instance, if the cost of small cartridges really bothers you, then you will probably print less, avoid switching blacks and be genreally unhappy. The what's the point of having a somewhat better inkset. Same works if you really want roll feed or feature.
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