I have been looking through the forum but do not see a thread for my question.....
I am considering purchasing an Epson 3800 . Do any of the members have a better alternative?
Many thanks for your help and advice.
#1. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 0fo_tik Registered since 26th Sep 2007Mon 22-Dec-08 02:25 PM
I've been looking at the same printer from Calumet Photo. They have the 'professional' version with RIP software for right about the same price you quoted. I'm also interested in hearing real life experiences with this printer. Things like, cost per page once the setup is done. Ink costs may be a concern in the long run. At between $55 to $60 a pop for carts, I think this printer would have to be good enough to provide prints for sale.
#2. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 1fastbike Registered since 01st Oct 2004Mon 22-Dec-08 02:35 PM
You don't need the RIP version. Available profiles work extremely well. You can find carts below $50USD at a variety of sources. You will likely find that the light black, light light black, and light magenta get used at about twice the rate as the "dark" colors. Light cyan is used about 1/4 faster than the dark colors in my experience.
There are hundreds of threads on real life experiences. The 3800 has has basically the same print engine and ink set as the larger Epson Pro printers.
In my experience, ink usage has been very reasonable. Roughly 2ml avg for a 17x22, .75 ml for an 8x10. Paper costs still dominate the print cost. I have also found the ink usage for the black swap to be less than the manual states. Time required for the ink swap is also less than stated in the manual.
Prints are stunning. You can get print samples from Epson. There are very few reported issues w/ clogging. All of these have been cleared by a cleaning cycle.
I'm only sorry I waited so long to get the printer. What are you waiting for>
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#3. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 2TiggerGTO Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2006Mon 22-Dec-08 05:36 PM
I bought my 3800 last summer after attending a Tony Sweet workshop with a concentration on printing. I have been very pleased with the prints I've produced, and haven't yet needed to replace any of the cartridges. As Larry said, I think that paper is definitely the major cost components for prints (excluding the printer itself). However, at this point my only concern is that the 3800 seems to be quite due for an upgrade. Since Epson didn't announce a 3880 for Christmas, I would not be surprised if one came out during the first quarter of next year. If I were in the market for a printer right now, my primary choice would be the 3800, but I'd be wondering very hard if I should wait to see what is coming.
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#4. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 3dgberg Registered since 25th Aug 2007Mon 22-Dec-08 11:36 PM | edited Tue 23-Dec-08 12:19 AM by dgberg
I have the 3800 for just over a year and thought there was hardly any way Epson could improve on this model. Well last week I got my new Epson 7900 and all I can say is wow! I will say it again wow! The blacks on this printer make the 3800 look weak. I have been printing the same file from both and the 3800 is just not in the same league. Still good but I am guessing I will only use it for 8 X10 and smaller. I know you did not ask about this printer but one thing to keep in mind is Epson may upgrade the 3800 to match the output of the 7990. If they plan to do that then I would wait. (Or buy a 7900)
#8. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 3jeverton Nikonian since 03rd Sep 2007Sat 27-Dec-08 05:17 PM
I’ve also been on the fence and explored the Epson 3800 and 4800 printers for over a year… it’s amazing how well the prices are holding given the economy.
Does anyone know the marketing cycle time (18/24/36 months) for releasing Epson professional printers? Murphy’s Law will more than come into play if I pull the trigger at this stage and we hit the mark-down phase. This is especially possible with the recent announcement on the Epson Stylus Pro 7900 and 9900 series which is based on unique high-density pigment chemistry, the Epson UltraChrome HDR ink technology offers all-new Orange and Green inks!
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#5. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 0
We are all striving to have the darkroom that we couldnt find space for in the film days. Now with digital cameras, ps/computers and 8-10 ink cart printers we can have it all.
I have had the 3800 for over 1 year. Printed 179 pages which included 5x7, 8x10, 25 13x19, 25 17x24 and my ink carts are still not empty. although the black inks will need to be replaced soon.
I would not hesitate to recommend the 3800. Its native software prints good although I did spend an additional $800 for imageprint software. If you can get the rip for free, basically, go for it.
I would not personally spend the money for anything larger. My local lab prints out 20x30, gatorboard mounted and laminated for $80. It would take me plenty of 20x30 sales to make up the price of the 7900. ALso, the size of that printer is huge because of the back roller deck.
#6. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 0
until the end of the year, shadesofpaper has has the printer for
$1104 and there is a $200 rebate on it for a $904 final cost.
>I have been looking through the forum but do not see a thread
>for my question.....
>I am considering purchasing an Epson 3800 . Do
>any of the members have a better alternative?
>Many thanks for your help and advice.
#7. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 6Sat 27-Dec-08 04:09 AM
Interestingly enough, B&H Photo had the 3800 for $1104 for a brief time.
I was considering, but they were out of stock at the time. With the $200 rebate, indeed $904 was a good deal.
Then they upped the price to $1189, so I was irritated and did not buy. Now, who knows why I am waiting.
If the price is close to $1295 which is the full price, economically it is cheaper to buy the 4800, which has a rebate of $480 and the price ($1995) is reduced to $1745 or thereabouts.
Considering the 4800 now.
#9. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 7Sun 28-Dec-08 04:36 AM | edited Sun 28-Dec-08 04:38 AM by danshep
Went to Pro Photo Supply store in Portland, Oregon.
Talk about a CANDY STORE!
They had the 7900, 9900 and all those printers in between. Got to look close at the 3800.
I have been salivating all night. They have extended the rebate until January 31, 2009. This place was selling it for the full $1299.
MAN, I would like that printer on my desk, instead of my burned out, wooped out, overly tired, and non-operational 2200.
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#10. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 9howardm4 Registered since 29th Dec 2007Sun 28-Dec-08 12:26 PM
I didn't realize they extended the 3800 rebate (can you provide a URL?).
I am/have been on the fence re: 3800 vs. Canon 9500 but after all the decision stuff, I think I'm going for the 3800 even though it's a 2yr old model (Epson says there are no plans to update it) but it does up to 38" long prints (and longer w/ a RIP or other hack) vs. the Canon 23" max. This is important for printing panoramas and the much lower cost of ink etc etc.
I probably wont print enough to really justify such a kick-@ss printer though
#11. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 10Sun 28-Dec-08 06:57 PM
Found it on the Epson site at
"Today is the tomorrow that yesterday you spent money like there was no"
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#15. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 11NikonProArtist Registered since 26th Feb 2008Sun 04-Jan-09 10:24 PM
Atlex is selling the 3800 for $1,149 with free shipping. After rebate your cost will be $949. You won't find the printer elsewhere for much less than that price. Atlex ships promptly. I have ordered a lot of ink and paper from them.
#13. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 6
Hi, Do you have an URL to there site (shades of paper), that shows this price you mention in your post? When I go to there site it doe'nt reflect the price that you stated. Any ideas?
#14. "RE: Epson 3800" | In response to Reply # 13snoakes1 Nikonian since 27th Aug 2007Mon 29-Dec-08 08:15 PM
I got off the phone with Shades of Paper a little bit ago, They gave me a great deal on a 4880. Talk to Jim, he was extremely helpful. (He mentioned that the 3800 had just been back ordered) I also have heard good things about Sarah there also. Seems to be a pretty good company.