Other Software Corel is tempting me.
I was looking to upgrade my Photoshop Elements and was disappointed to see that the latest version is still only 32 bit.
And when on the site I see that they are pushing their cloud subscription at $49/month which popped up when I went to upgrade. I feared that they were no longer selling upgrades and want you to subscribe. That might work for some but I'm not ready for that yet. I did get assurance from the on-line sales chatman Edmund (who needs to work on his English) that I can still upgrade for $80. When I asked if version 13 would be 64 bit his reply was thank you for chatting goodbye.
Anyway I decided to look again at Corel. They now have a promotional on "Aftershot Pro" http://www.corel.com/corel/product/index.jsp?pid=prod4670071&cid=catalog50008&segid=6000006 which is a competitor to Lightroom. Currently on sale for $29 from $99. Tempting.
If Adobe is pushing to subscription based software I'm saying goodbye to Adobe.
Anyone know anything about this Aftershot program. Web Reviews seem to give it thumbs up. It does not replace Elements - for that I need their Paintshop Pro ($69 - but it is 64bit already).
Do I spend $100 and convert to Corel or wait for Adobe and spend that amount on Lightroom (don't have that yet). Hmmm?
On the fence.
BTW - I looked for a section in the Software part of this forum and didn't see a place for programs there were not either Adobe, Nikon or Mac. I think "other software" would be worthwhile category - just saying.
#1. "RE: Other Software Corel is tempting me. " | In response to Reply # 0blw Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004Sun 03-Nov-13 07:53 PM
For what are you upgrading? (ie what functionality do you need that you can't do now?)
> I looked for a section in the Software part of this forum and didn't see a place for programs there were not either Adobe, Nikon or Mac. I think "other software" would be worthwhile category
Perhaps counterintuitively, just click on Processing and Workflow - that's where what you want is hiding. Don't feel bad - I think it was there for two years before I noticed it.
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#2. "RE: Other Software Corel is tempting me. " | In response to Reply # 1Sun 03-Nov-13 08:34 PM
Was hoping for 64bit to take advantage of the 32GB of RAM I have in my PC which I'm thinking will speed things up and eliminate the "out of RAM" message I get in Elements from time to time.
I also would like it to work in Windows 8 (my system is a dual boot and I have to go back to Win7 for Elements 10. I have used it in Win8, it does load but is not stable, too prone to crashes. Not that Elements 10 does not crash in Win7. I find that the Editor crashes when I try to close it, no big deal, it recovers but its a bother.
And I would like the program to take advantage of AMD's Hyper-Vision which allows me to limit the display to one of my three screens. A wide display is great for gaming but spreading an edit window over 54" is sub-optimal. Elements 10 isn't hydra-vision friendly. Most programs are, just a few exceptions and Elements 10 ain't. I don't know if Corel is, and doubt I'd find out without downloading the trial.
Might download the trials and give them a go. BUT was disappointed to find that Corel does not have a panoramic creator function (although they do have a tutorial showing you how to do it manually in layers).
Can posts be moved or is that an administrator's job?
#3. "RE: Other Software Corel is tempting me. " | In response to Reply # 1Sun 03-Nov-13 08:41 PM
>Perhaps counterintuitively, just click on Processing and
>Workflow - that's where what you want is hiding. Don't feel
>bad - I think it was there for two years before I noticed it."
Went there and I see:
Adobe postprocessing software (Open)
Apple postprocessing (Open)
Nikon & Nikonians Imaging Software (Open)
PhaseOne - Capture One Pro
HDR software & hardware (Open)
Plug-ins: Nik, Imagenomic & Others (Open)
This forum is for software plug-ins
That last one is the only one that says "others" but it is for Plug-Ins.
Where is the Other Software you suggested?
#6. "RE: Other Software Corel is tempting me. " | In response to Reply # 5Hoser Nikonian since 05th Dec 2008Wed 06-Nov-13 03:45 PM
Just my 2Cents,
I use Aftershot by Corel.
I have Photoshop Elements from version 1 upward to 11.
I uninstalled 11 as I really hated the new interface.
I think PSE, up to 10, was too close to Photoshop CS6 and Adobe realized they were losing ground to PS Elements. I use PSE10.It does everything I need to do. I also have Lightroom 5. Aftershot, I feel, has its own place in post processing. In many ways I like it better than LR5. It is more intuitive to me and there are a lot of plugins out there for free on the web. It also integrates noise ninja light, which actually works great.For the price. To me , it was worth taking a chance and I really like it. I think Adobe is going down a bad road and so I am weaning myself away from them. Who else would take an interface that was used in 10 versions of their software and change it completely to a point where the intuitiveness is lost?
As I said , just my 2cents.
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#7. "RE: Other Software Corel is tempting me. " | In response to Reply # 6GBaylis Nikonian since 12th Sep 2012Wed 06-Nov-13 04:14 PM
"Who else would take an interface that was used in 10 versions of their software and change it completely to a point where the intuitiveness is lost?"
I agree with your sentiments about Adobe: I think they have completely forgotten about their "small" customers and are banking on annual revenues from the cloud-based apps from the bigger companies that can afford that sort of cash.
I'm experimenting with the free trial of Aftershot at the moment but I do wish Nikon would provide some info about their future strategy for Capture NX2. Anyone heard anything?
#8. "Bought Corel Paintshop ProX6" | In response to Reply # 7Sun 05-Jan-14 02:27 PM
I decided to buy Paintshop ProX6 and so far so good. It works well in Windows 8.1, better than my Elements 11 which crashes all the time.
I did download a trial version of Aftershoot, not sure I'll buy it - have until Jan 15th to decide and get $25 off the $49 list price. Still it crashed repeatedly when trying to load my photo collection (at about 52,000 files at the moment. Would load about 7,000 and crash - then restart it and load another 7,000 or so. painful. But once loaded it did not crash so I guess that is a growing pain.
I wonder if there is enough Paintshop ProX6 users out there to warrant a section under this category? Hint Hint
I was disappointed it does not have an auto-panoramic button. I either have to go back to Elements to do that or use Microsoft's ICE or other panoramic processor. Hopefully Corel includes that in there next version.
I'm just not a happy Adobe user anymore.
#9. "RE: Bought Corel Paintshop ProX6" | In response to Reply # 8kj_fi Nikonian since 18th Jul 2007Mon 06-Jan-14 09:04 AM | edited Mon 06-Jan-14 09:06 AM by kj_fi
Did you not consider Lightroom to replace your Elements? My experience with Elements is similar: crashes and incompatibilities.
Lightroom doesn't provide all the image editing power which Photoshop has but it should be a major upgrade from Elements as a photo catalogue and editing software and it has been available in 64 bits from version 1, I think.
I believe the price tag is very attractive and you can purchase it separately from CreativeCloud.
#10. "RE: Bought Corel Paintshop ProX6" | In response to Reply # 9Sat 11-Jan-14 04:08 AM
$120 US isn't what I'd consider as "very attractive". And that is the special price (expires tomorrow).
Corel Aftershot is $49 (and I have a $25 Corel coupon from my Paintshop Pro purchase so I could have it for $25).
I did try Aftershot and I'm not happy with how it had a hard time managing my 50,000 image catalogue - repeatedly crashed loading it.
Decided to try using Picasa3 to catalogue my images - it seems to do the trick - for free - and bonus the catalogue is on line giving me a on-line collection (howbeit small image sized). I'm going to have to be selective about uploading to that catalogue due to bandwidth limits - it told me it would take 12 days to upload. (rural Canada internet speed sucks).
I also have a free copy of Zoner photo's program - yet another cataloging program.
Could not see any advantage to Lightroom over Elements or Paintshop Pro.
But I should give it a go and try it out.
#11. "RE: Bought Corel Paintshop ProX6" | In response to Reply # 10kj_fi Nikonian since 18th Jul 2007Sun 26-Jan-14 05:53 AM
I'm afraid I disagree. I would not look at the price alone. Having spent thousands of dollars for a camera and lenses and then trying to avoid all additional costs is not the way I would look at it.
Paying 120 dollars for state-of-the-art software and using it actively perhaps at least 2-3 years does not sound very expensive to me.
But anyway, if you have found a perfect solution for yourself, then that is what counts.