Sat 28-Apr-12 09:55 PM | edited Sat 28-Apr-12 09:57 PM by ZoneV
Notice some of the poll choices have 7 bodies, while some have 8 (and one has 6). 8 current DSLR bodies is a lot. Historically, Nikon has produced 7 bodies at any given point in time. It remains to be seen if they can/will add another body to their lineup. And since the D700 will likely overlap the D400 and/or D600 and the D800 for a few months, they will be assembling 9 bodies for a while if they were to add a D600 and D4x on top of the D800 and D700.
Mon 30-Apr-12 12:54 AM | edited Mon 30-Apr-12 01:28 AM by ZoneV
Assume the D600 has an AF motor, metal body similar to D7000 in size and construction, and less megapixels than the D800.
Assume the D4x is 45MP or greater and $8000.
Note: "D3200, D5200, D7100, D400 D600, D800, D4" appears to be what Canon is aiming for. The only model missing from Canon's lineup in this series is the high-megapixel FX body. They are quoted as saying they plan to come out with one in the future. Historically, Nikon and Canon have never had identical lineups, instead having some models offset.
Rebel T3 = D3100 Rebel T3i = D5100 EOS 60D - D7000 EOS 7D = D300s or D400 EOS 5D III (sort of) = Nikon D6000 EOS ?? = D800 EOS 1Dx = D4
And Canon has said they aren't coming out with a high MP large pro FX body (who knows if that's true just marketing hype).
I think the D3x replacement is gone. The D3X was a low volume seller and I don't see how they can expect to even match those sales with the D800 sitting out there at a much lower price point than would be expected with a D4x.
Too many models on the showroom can lead to confusion and a higher chance of failure in the market place. The D3200, D5100, D7000, D800 and D4 are here. We assume a D5200 to replace the D5100, a D7100 to replace the D7000. Most assume a D400 is coming to replace a D300s and some predict a D600. I have problems justifing the co-exsistance of both a D400 and D800. If there is a D400 then I don't see a D600. If there really is a D600 then I see no D400. A semi-professional DX and enthusiast FX with I assume similar pricing. Feel free to argue!
-If Nikon gets rid of the D4x (which I could see as a possibility), they are at minus 1 (6 bodies).
-If Nikon keeps the D4x and adds the D600, they are at +1 (8 bodies).
I can't see them permentently adding or removing a body.
However: If Nikon gets rid of the D4x AND adds the D600 (on top of the D400) they would be at -1+1 = 7, same as always. I am therefore going to vote for: D4, D800, D600, D400, D7100, D5200, D3200. That said, I'm not 100% convinced the D4x will NEVER materialize. Then again, why else would the D800 be 36MP (and rumors of impending discontinuation for the D3x)? So I think that is the most likely explanation.
D4 D800 D600 (Entry level FX - 24mp) D400 (Pro DX - 24mp) D7100 (simi-pro DX - 24mp) D5200 (the movie maker DX - 24mp) D3200
I feel 24mp will be the mp count for Nikon this round due the D3200 already having that sensor and putting anything less in higher up models would not match what people want. However, I do feel that maybe the D400 could stick with an updated 16mp sensor from the D7000. And the D600 may have a very small chance of having the D4 sensor.... let's only hope....!!!!!!
Fri 11-May-12 01:59 AM | edited Fri 11-May-12 02:01 AM by KnightPhoto
>I voted the same, > >D4 >D800 >D600 (Entry level FX - 24mp) >D400 (Pro DX - 24mp) >D7100 (simi-pro DX - 24mp) >D5200 (the movie maker DX - 24mp) >D3200 >
Me too and this happen's to fit Al's 7-camera theory which has some precedent. With the D800/E out there, the D4X would have to go 54 or 72mp to differentiate itself. Not sure but that might be a niche within a niche of the present day FX market, so I don't see a D4X happening at this time?
The other inference - does the rumour of a D600 mean - no "D700 replacement" - I think it would mean exactly that. FX would be four well differentiated cameras in this scenario - D600, D800/E, and the D4.
Edited to add: the D7000 line needs to skip a number and get itself aligned - D7200 here we come!
I could be wrong in dates/eras, but the trational thought that they've had a 7 DSLR line up could be wrong.
How long have they had a 7 body line up?
I've had my D70 since 2004/2005. That's only 7 years ago. Not really that long when you think that at that time I think they only had a D1, D1h, D100, and D70. The D200 was introduced mid to late 2005 I think.
Over time they have increased their line up choices but why do they have to justify having 7 all the time. It could be more, it could be less.
I agree with another post here that if they have too many models with a somewhat skewed model nomenclature it could cause more confusion in their line up and hurt their sales. It's already getting a little muddied with the 4 digit model names.
D4, (D3x?), D800/E, D700, D300s, D7000, D5100, D3200 It's unclear if the D3x is being discontinued soon. The D300s and D700 are still succrent, except in Japan due to regulations. I count the D800 and D800 E as the same camera, as there is only a single difference: the sensor covering.
If they drop the D3x, D700, and D300s, we are down to:
D4, D800/E, D7000, D5100, D3200 5 models.
Add a D600 and you get 6:
D4, D800/E, D7000, D5100, D3200
Replace the D5100 and D7000 and you get:
D4, D800/E, D7100, D5200, D3200 Something doesn't seem right, and it's not just the name of the D7100. Why would Nikon cut the lineup to 5 bodies, especially when they are projecting record-breaking revenue this coming year?
So what are the two more bodies? We know one of them: D600:
D4, D800/E, D600, D7100, D5200, D3200. But that's still only 6. What's the other one?
D400 or D4x? D400 makes sense first in my opinion.
So: D4, D800/E, D400, D600, D7100, D5200, D3200 7 bodies again, all is well.
Or alternatively: D4x (2013), D4, D800/E, D600, D7100, D5200, D3200.
Or maybe they will have 8 bodies: D4x, D4, D800/E, D400, D600, D7100, D5200, D3200.
But, why would the D400 exist if the D600 (an entry level body) has a higher model number than it? Perhaps just because it's FX, the D600 would get a higher number? I'm not sure.
For those who didn't, see the D4 forum for my rationale on a D4x.