In 1923 the Duke and Duchess of York (later to become King George VI and Queen Elizabeth) the parents of the current Queen Elizabeth II spent two weeks of their honeymoon at this country house. This is Polesden lacey, an Edwardian house owned at the time by Mrs Ronald Greville, a well know hostess. There is a photo published in a London newspaper which is pretty much the same view as the photo I've posted. Derek
Where I was standing was where the house's golf course used to be. The nearest town is probably Dorking or a little further away - Guildford. It's pretty near to Box Hill which featured a lot in the recent Olympics cycle road races.
In my dreams as well Jon. I'm lucky with the area I live in as there are many of these houses relatively near... many owned these days by the National Trust, as is this one. Thanks for commenting. Derek
Nice image, Derek. I've been following your posts and you show some nice rural English architecture. This picture specifically, and some of your others, seem to me as if they can do with some more colour saturation. That is a personal taste, though, and maybe you like them with less saturation?
>Nice image, Derek. I've been following your posts and you >show some nice rural English architecture. This picture >specifically, and some of your others, seem to me as if they >can do with some more colour saturation. That is a personal >taste, though, and maybe you like them with less saturation?
Koos. Thanks a lot for commenting. You make an interesting point and one that I haven't heard before regarding any of my posts (as far as I can remember). Firstly, let me say, that you are right in that the saturation applied will come down to personal taste. Clearly, the level of saturation I have posted both now and in the past has been what has appealed to me and what I have judged to be in context with the scene I've actually tried to capture. So from my perspective the saturation has been about right. I don't like garish colours in landscapes and architecture unless they are there in the original, however, I appreciate that others may pefer something different.
I felt that I had gone for a fairly strong saturation but that because of the nature of the image of Hatchlands and the fact that I'd made a severe crop it was appropriate but I wasn't sure if I'd gone too far?
Coming back to this particular image, what in particular would you have saturated more? Everything? or specific areas/ colours. Take the grass for instance.. would you have bumped up the green? To my mind not appropriate as this is winter and the grass shades are somewhat muted.
Koos, I do sincerely thank you for your feedback... it give me food for thought. I'd be interested in others views regarding this as well.
Hi Derek. Looking at Hatchlands I would be tempted to open up the shadows a bit. That would automatically have the effect of decreasing saturation. As the picture is as posted, it's a bit contrasty and heavily saturated (for my taste). But then, as you posted it, it makes for a strong, dramatic picture. A lot would depend on the kind of mood you would want to convey, I guess.
For my own taste, the only change I would make to the Honeymoon Retreat is to increase saturation by about 15 in Photoshop. My personal likes aside, you post really nice pictures, and whether I like it more or less saturated is immaterial. Your pictures are always well-exposed and focused, so keep them coming
First on to Hatchlands. I don't disagree with your observations. I debated whether to go with as heavily saturated as I ended up doing but, from memory, the thing that led me to go that way was the effect it had on the sky (which I rather like to be honest). As you say, it made for a more dramatic image of what, in all honesty, is just a nice(ish) looking country house.
On to Polesden Lacey... I did a quick edit and bumped up the saturation by 15 as you suggested. Yes, no problem with that. The main effect it had was to lighten the surrounding grass a little. It also slightly lightened the colour of the house itself. Tbh, the effect overall was fairly subtle and certainly never put it into an over-saturated state IMO. So yes, we are as one.
Thanks Koos. Your input is much appreciated and valued and it's always good to have these discussions as it makes one reappraise things... always good.
Thanks a lot Dan. I'm glad you liked the path. I'm always looking for some sort of lead in that I can use in the PP. If that lead in can come from the corner of the frame so much the better. Thanks. Derek
Antero and Joel. Thanks for the positive comments.
Antero, let me try and answer your question regarding Queen Elizabeth numbering/status. Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon married Albert, Duke of York the second son of the King. He was never expected to become king. When they married Elizabeth became the Duchess of York. When her husband became King (after the abdication of his brother, Edward VIII) she became Queen Elizabeth (in fact Queen Consort). Queen Consorts have no constitutional status or power. So, when her husband died, she never became QUEEN and this passed to her daughter, the current Queen Elizabeth II. So she then became know as the Queen Mother. Does that make sense? Clear as mud I imagine.
As to the gardens. The little piece of the garden you can see is really the private golf course. Here are a couple of images of the proper gardens. The first is immediately behind the house as viewed from my original image. The second is also within the formal garden looking out towards the hills and woods which the back of the house (to the left of the original image). The gardens look very bare this time of year but are beautiful in spring and summer. Sorry for the long post. Derek