Beautiful. You’ve made the same discovery that I made, namely that the best sunrise or sunset pictures are often the ones where the sun is below the horizon. And water can be rendered sharp and not smooth as silk. A flock of migrating cranes or gees would have be a nice addition but they are usually out of stock when you need them.
Thank Antero I'm glad you enjoyed it. I usually like the color in the sky better during sun rise or set when the sun has been gone for 20min+. I also like the sun peaking through the clouds as well especially when there are a few rays out.
Can I feel it? In a word...yes. I can feel the breeze and smell the air. Beautiful capture, Scott. I remember in your reply to the last sunrise picture I posted, "Simple Sunrise," you said that it looked dark to you maybe because your monitor was calibrated for prints. Well sure enough, I printed it and it was much darker than what I was seeing. What can I do to ensure what I'm seeing is what comes out on print? Sorry, I don't mean to hijack your thread. You can send me a private message if you like. Again, beautiful shot.
>Can I feel it? In a word...yes. I can feel the breeze and >smell the air. Beautiful capture, Scott. I remember in your >reply to the last sunrise picture I posted, "Simple >Sunrise," you said that it looked dark to you maybe >because your monitor was calibrated for prints. Well sure >enough, I printed it and it was much darker than what I was >seeing. What can I do to ensure what I'm seeing is what comes >out on print? Sorry, I don't mean to hijack your thread. You >can send me a private message if you like. Again, beautiful >shot. > >Scottie
I have this same question!
Great photo, Scott.
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Scottie, Diane, I'm sorry to butt in - I know you didn't ask ME - but the answer is to obtain and use a Colormunki. With it, you can calibrate your monitor AND create profiles for your printer with the different papers you use. I've had one for quite a while. If it were to die for some reason, I'd immediately get another one! With the Colormunki, what you see on the print is what you saw on the monitor!
Are you using any calibration hardware now? I don't remember us talking about any. Regardless if you are calibrating or not in terms of print brightness if you are getting prints that are too dark which is common it is usually because the monitor is set too bright for photo work. In conjunction with that you really should be using a hardware device like Pete mentioned below whether it be the colormunki or other. I use the X-Rite Display Pro. This will assure color & contrast are more consistent. Are these prints you are making at home or at a lab? As a quick and dirty test you can bring your monitor brightness down to better match that print, then pick a different image, edit to taste and print it to see if things are better. This might take a few tries but it will get you in the ball park.
No I'm not using anything right. I don't have anything. I get all but the least important prints done at a lab. The prints I'm referring to are enlargements from Costco. Your "quick and dirty" test idea sounds like a good idea. I'll try it.
I barely know what it means. I have been through a tutorial, and saw where it was helpful to make prints look closer to what you see on the monitor by seeing the difference in the color gamuts, and making the appropriate mods.
Now u know that we think a lot alike I can only feel the lower 80% of the shot Not to detract touch but IMO that beautiful yellow cloud should not be there To me it competes with mine eye to enjoy the serenity of the ocean and pre sunrise sky.
Thats a tough call sir. I think if there was more room between the ocean and the bottom of the cloud I might feel more strongly towards your comment of removing the cloud. Removing it seemed to make the image too long and narrow which made me want to bring in the sides a little bit which then distorted the image. If you remember this was the same cloud that I post in a scene with the gent standing in the wind. Thanks for offering up you ideas then are always welcome, you thoughts always cause me to think sometimes. I think we all need that once in a while.
Is that all you can do, just shoot those nice photos up there off that pier?
I have my own way of evaluating how cropping can bring out the mood, story, feel, etc. of an image. I never thought of cropping this photo until I saw Preston's comment on cropping out the yellow clouds.
Try as I might, I couldn't find a crop that I liked any better than the original. Cropping the top doesn't seem to make much difference until you crop it all out. If I did that I would probably want to reverse your exposure compensation. Otherwise, it would seem a little flat. I just wonder if the clouds really looked that yellow. I read somewhere that sunsets usually photographed more yellow, and less red than they usually look. It went into a great scientific discourse to show why. Guess, if I ever take the time to shoot tethered, a sunset photoshoot might be a good test.
Pardon me for making one critical comment. For me, your large signature on top of the "pier" is really distracting. For me, smaller and to the bottom right would have been more appropriate for this image. The pier seems to anchor this image. It is a small part in contrast wth its surroundings, and doesn't need any distraction.
Your image is one that I can get lost in. The bright clouds don't grab my eyes as much as I just know that they are there lighting every thing else before the sun would have done it on its own. The pier gives me a comfortable feeling that I am secure in this scene, and have no worry about being tossed around by the waves. I could go on...
Thanks for your very complete analysis of this image. Like you cropping out the clouds was never a thought until it was brought up. It was a good point but I couldn't make it work for me. Maybe if I would have composed it that way to start with it could have worked, a lower perspective and more of the jetty probably would have worked. As far as the color of the clouds, were they really that yellow or vibrant for that matter? Of course not. Seems I will usually push the dominant color in post to bring a little more pop to my images, I may sometimes even use a colored filter in post, not sure what I did here. In the end whether correct or not I like the result. As for the sig, I completely agree. I should have moved it during export. Over the years I have automated fully things like adding a watermark or frame which was the case here. Thanks for noticing and pointing it out, it will keep me on my toes! If you buy a print I will take out completely.
Sat 24-Nov-12 11:00 PM | edited Sat 24-Nov-12 11:09 PM by nkcllewis
Scott, beautiful image. I read somewhere recently that with a D800 you no longer need HDR software. I'm not sure if your exposure is post processed but the sky and water seem perfectly exposed in what I would imagine accurately represents what you saw.
Congratulations on a wonderful capture,
Kent in VA PS just saw Antero's post where he states that the D800 negates HDR software...
Hi Kent. I have not seen you post much lately, good to hear form ya.
"I read somewhere recently that with a D800 you no longer need HDR software."
IMO that statement is probably about 80% true. The amount of detail one can pull out of the shadows is pretty amazing in a properly exposed image. In my findings though it is not true for every image and I can't answer as to why. I am still bracketing most every shot while shooting like I always have for landscapes and such, just in case. What I have for sure noticed and it is very consistent is that I don't need as many shots for any given scene. I am basically down to three for most everything, once in a while I will shoot 5 but it is pretty rare anymore. This is probably because I am becoming more familiar with the camera in what it can and can't do. No, the exposure you see did not come out of a camera. It was very much achieved in post which is the case for most if not all the images I post. I shoot extremely flat, everything is zeroed out in camera & in ACR. In terms of what I saw it is pretty darn close in terms of exposure. The color on the other hand has been pushed up using my creative license.
For some reason I almost missed this post. Scott, this is magical. Thank you very much for this. I can feel how it will be to cast a line out there, not so much to catch a fish but to experience the sea.