Hello people. I'm looking for some feedback on the Voigtlander Cosina Bessa R2. How does it compare with a Leica M6? Is it just as solid? Is it generally a better cam? I realize it is a rangefinder, but how does it compare with a Nikon FM2-T? All feedback is welcome. Thanks!
From what I've read, the Voigtlander rangefinder is way too delicate. I saw a long series of posts by people who have had the rangefinder go out of alignment.
The rest of the camera is okay. Nothing special but reasonably reliable. Keep in mind, the Bessa is the same platform body as the Nikon FM-10, the cheap manual F-mount body that Cosina builds for Nikon (and for a couple of other brand names).
It's not anywhere near the quality of the FM2-T and way outclassed by a real Leica. The Bessa is a basic, cheap, decent camera that takes Leica-mount lenses. The Voigtlander lenses are very good to excellent performers. Unless Cosina has improved the rangefinder, I'd avoid it and get the Bessa without the rangefinder.
Well from what I have seen, the Bessa R was this cheap plastic thing. Now the R2 has taken care of that by making it a metal body. I have not seen a R2, but I am looking forward to it, the fact that it uses Leica M mount is a huge plus. I would like to get into a Rangefinder, and I do not think that the M6 is worth the cost. I love the lenses, But do not like the thought of buying a $2500 lens then buying a $2000 body to go with it. If I can get away with a $900 ish, I think the R2 will be going for, body then it won't feel so bad. I have not heard that many complaints of the Bessa R myself, other than the obvious cheap feel, it is a camera I have been following. However, the M6 still has the flare out problem in the veiwfinder. Since the Intro of the M7 I have heard that it has been rectified. No the R2 will not be as tank-like build of the Leica M's. Nor will it be as well built as the FM2t. But the size is just right for my hand (the R) and I do not think that the R2 will be any bigger. So no matter how you look at it, the cost to build factor, it still says great deal. You can use Leica lenses, or their own which are also a great deal, and still a good lens. But I would go with the Leica lenses myself.
John R Nikonian to the West Coast of Canada Taking life 2-gigs at a time
Thanks people. Actually a friend of mine has a R2, and I looked at it. But I don't have the camera knowledge base to determine whether it's a good buy or not. On the plus side, I'm never in a rush with buying anything, until I understand what I'm buying.
I have a Leica M6 and bought a Bessa R2 recently as a secondary M mount camera .Bessa R2 is better built and feels nicer in the hand when compared to the original Bessa R ,which i had for a few weeks last year before i sold it but it's definitely not in the same class as Leica. The viewfinder is really nice though and doesn't give much away to the Leica.The shutter noise is quite a bit louder when compared to M6 and it puts some people off but it doesn't bother me on most occasions. Best to try your friend's rangefinder otherwise you might embark on an expensive experiment that doesn't suit your style in the long run especially if you go the Leica route.
I got to play with a Bessa R2 today (for the first time---thanks, Leo's Photo). It's a nice camera, but over-priced---certainly not FM2 quality. So, I'm still undecided. Maybe I'll wait 'til its price drops down to reality. Like, come on..., $899 Canadian?? One thing, though, the 50mm f1.5 Voigtlander lens is sure nice....
You might want to consider buying a used M6 body and lenses. A lot of Leica equipment is babied by its owners. That, coupled with its excellent durability, means you're not losing a lot with used equipment. In my case, I picked up a used M6 Classic body for $1100 that was in pristine condition and supplemented it with a used 35mm 2.0 Summicron and a used 90mm 2.8 Elmarit, both for $600 each. This still isn't cheap, but I'm not second guessing myself and selling used Voightlander equipment at a loss. The M6 is a joy to use.
I considered this, but a used Leica M6 with a basic lens is still gonna cost me a lot more than a new Bessa R2 and new Voightlander 50mm F1.5 lens. Both these options for me are no bang for the buck. Perhaps there is a R3 in the works, something MORE SOLID, perhaps. Then, maybe I'll dig into my wallet. Hmmm, time to go to bed. I have to take some pictures tomorrow morning when the sun is just right...with my Nikon.