I want a back-up to our D300's when we want to travel light. (We also have a D60.)
Most shooting would be at low ISO, outdoors in relatively good light. We do enlarge and print to 12x18 and 16x20 inches.
Thus the main criteria is best image quality at low ISO. I do prefer having an optical viewfinder.
Which one? Canon G10 or G11?
#1. "RE: Which one? G10 or G11" | In response to Reply # 0Donald Kahn Registered since 16th May 2009Fri 30-Oct-09 02:51 AM
I just bought the G11 about 3 weeks ago, and I really like it. I've never owned a G10, but I can't think of a good reason to buy "yesterday's camera."
The results at ISO 200 are excellent, and I find ISO 400 and 800 very good. My verdict is still out at 1600.
I own a D700, so I'm spoiled when it comes to high ISO results.
Attached is a photo taken yesterday at ISO 200
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#3. "Ended up with the G10" | In response to Reply # 1Sun 01-Nov-09 02:13 AM
To bring this to closure I have purchased the G10. Tomorrow I will do some testing to see if I have made a reasonable choice. My preference is outdoor low ISO image quality. The G11 overall is probably a better choice for most people, but I rarely shoot indoors and need high ISO expept for casual family shots. If I went to concerts, shot at parties or did a lot of night photography, I probably would have gone with the G11. I have a D300 and a D60 when I need a higher ISO.
Thanks all for your guidance.
#2. "RE: Which one? G10 or G11" | In response to Reply # 0
>I want a back-up to our D300's when we want to travel light.
>(We also have a D60.)
A D60 with an inexpensive VR kit lens produces better technical quality and better high ISO performance than the G10 or G11. Better still, the D60 + VR kit lens only weigh about 8 ounces more than the G10 or G11. Obviously, the D60 + lens isn't pocketable. OTOH, the G10 or G11 are heavy little bricks which pocket best in cargo shorts or cargo pants or a small shoulder bag or medium belt pouch.
If you really want to avoid the bulk of even a small conventional SLR + lens, but at the same time don't want to sacrifice the technical image quality offered by an SLR, consider the Panasonic GF-1 with 20mm f/1.7 lens (40mm equiv), or the Olympus EP-1 with the same lens. The Panasonic GF-1 gets my vote overall.
I own a G11, and before it a G10 and before it a G9. I tried an EP-1 for a week (in September) and didn't like the form factor. I've now tried a GF-1 and it will be my next purchase. The technical image quality is terrific, I zoom with my feet so the 20mm f/1.7 kit lens (fast, razor sharp, well made) is more than sufficient. Personally I think people are shortly going to start winning photography contests with this one.
#4. "RE: Which one? G10 or G11" | In response to Reply # 2Tue 03-Nov-09 02:09 PM
Howard, how did the image quality seem between the G10 and G11? I prefer a camera with an optical viewfinder and already have a D60.
Since Brian has moved this to the No-Nikon Forum, you may not get this question.
(Brian, I put this in a DSLR forum as I wanted opinions of DSLR users since this is a back-up purchase to my DSLR.)
#5. "RE: Which one? G10 or G11" | In response to Reply # 4agitater Nikonian since 18th Jan 2007Tue 03-Nov-09 10:43 PM
>Howard, how did the image quality seem between the G10 and
>G11? I prefer a camera with an optical viewfinder and already
>have a D60.
For most shooting in normal light, it's hard to tell the difference between the G10 and G11. But when the light starts to fail and ISO bumps up above 600 or so, the G10 maintains better technical image quality than the G10 through about ISO 1000, after which images are so noisy they're essentially useless. Once again, you'll clearly do better with your little D60 and a kit zoom.
Frankly, the Panasonic GF1 (micro four-thirds) is a better choice than anything from Canon or Nikon in the compact lineup. Add the 20mm f/1.7 prime (40mm equiv.) or the 14-45mm zoom (28-90mm equiv.) and you've still got a very small package (much smaller than your D60 w/kit zoom) which provides technical image quality superior in every way to the G10/G11 along with superior low light performance and obviously better quality glass. You can add an optical viewfinder to the GF1 (it fits in the flash hot shoe).
But if you really need the completely flat form factor of a point & shoot with its retracting lens, my vote is for the G11.
#7. "RE: Which one? G10 or G11" | In response to Reply # 4briantilley Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003Wed 04-Nov-09 05:26 PM
>(Brian, I put this in a DSLR forum as I wanted opinions of
>DSLR users since this is a back-up purchase to my DSLR.)
Both Don and Howard own various Nikon SLR's, so you're still attracting responses from your intended audience
#8. "RE: Which one? G10 or G11" | In response to Reply # 7Wed 04-Nov-09 06:03 PM | edited Wed 04-Nov-09 06:06 PM by jerry r
Thank you, Brian.
I was afraid that I might not reach enough DSLR users in the Non-Nikon Forum. I apologize for the multiple posting.
I am on a tight time line as I have a small window where I can exchange the new G10's for the G11's.
So far I plan to keep the G10's (His & Hers) hoping that the noise level at low ISO will not be too bad.
Question, Brian - If I use email through the My User Menu, is my email address visible to the recipient? Although through Nikonians this is probably not a problem.
#9. "RE: Which one? G10 or G11" | In response to Reply # 8briantilley Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003Wed 04-Nov-09 06:33 PM
>Question, Brian - If I use email through the My User Menu, is
>my email address visible to the recipient?
Yes and no...!
An email sent using the Nikonians system looks to the recipient as though it has come from Nikonians. But when the recipient clicks on "reply to sender" in their email client, the sender's actual email address (the one they registered with Nikonians) is used, so the recipient is able to see what it was.
#10. "RE: Which one? G10 or G11" | In response to Reply # 7Donald Kahn Registered since 16th May 2009Wed 04-Nov-09 09:00 PM | edited Wed 04-Nov-09 09:21 PM by Donald Kahn
Although I agree that the specific forums shouldn't be cluttered with irrelevant posts, I did notice that one of the longest threads on the D700 forum was one that questioned whether or not D700 owners also used a point and shoot. I've also noticed that there really are not a lot of new posts on the D700 site until some burning issue or topic appears. Since I am somewhat of a new-comer to the Nikonian community, I wouldn't want to suggest any policies for the site. However, I would think that if a D700 owner had a topic, even if it wasn't directly related to the D700, that it may be of interest to other D700 owners, and that if it wasn't, that it would be ignored.
This was just my thought, and I always appreciate your input.