What impresses me about this new model is the fact it has 1080p video recording and the price point it is expected to come out at!
I was surprised to see that it is more than 16 megapixel. More megapixel is good if it isn't at a hit to quality which it shouldn't be if it performs like their top of the line 1D Mark III. But 1080p video and all these other features @ possibly 20% less $ than the D700 could make for some interesting price adjustments on the Nikon side ...
Then there is the new Sony 900 coming out in this price point too which may also cause a price shift on the Nikon FX gear .... all the better for us!
Yes, it does look very good in terms of specification, if 20+ MP is required. This new 5D trails the D700 in frames-per-second and (probably) AF performance, but I guess it has a slightly different target market.
Interestingly, like the 50D / D300, the Canon does not have a price advantage in the UK. Here, the 5D MkII RRP will be £2,300. The D700 RRP was £2,000 at launch, and is now available at £1,700.
No prices on the Canon Australia site yet but at reputable online dealers the original 5D is still selling for $2799 while the D700 is about $3700. So I suspect the 5D2 will come in around the D700 price which is a bargain when you consider the same sensor (though it has been tweaked from what I can tell) in the 1DS3 sells for around $10,000 here.
Looks like a great cam at that price point if you need 21MP but I don't think it will put much of a dent in D700 sales with those specs. This is actually the type of body I thought Nikon might release (High MP, less featured and priced similar to the D700) to steal Canon's thunder but we'll wait and see. If Nikon are true to form (like Canon were with the 5D2) they will probably run with a Nikon spec'd 24MP sony sensor in a D3 body with more or less the same specs (perhaps with lower fps) at the D3 price point or slightly higher.
Canon have pretty much delivered what most people in the know thought they would, a high IQ sensor (low noise high resolution) in a consumer spec'd body. So you still have to spend big dollars on a 1D body if you want pro features. Unless Canon release something truly revolutionary in the next 6 months, Nikon are going to continue to grab a bigger slice of the DSLR market even with their current bodies let alone if they release a new high MP body/ies and new lenses.
Wed 24-Sep-08 07:28 AM | edited Wed 24-Sep-08 07:29 AM by TEITZY
Looks like a similar story to the UK in Australia with pricing. Two online stores have the 5D2 listed at $3999 while one of these also has the D700 at $3469. So even if 5D2 prices ease off after Christmas I doubt they will get within $250 of the D700.
Is the huge price discrepancy in the different countries due to import taxes and such? If it is being released in places where it is the same or less $ than the D700, then it should be that way everywhere? Odd .....
>Looks like a similar story to the UK in Australia with >pricing. Two online stores have the 5D2 listed at $3999 while >one of these also has the D700 at $3469. So even if 5D2 prices >ease off after Christmas I doubt they will get within $250 of >the D700. > >Cheers >Leigh
I think as time goes by, the pro DSLR's are all going to be in the 20+ megapixel range and stay there so that the images produced are on-par with 35mm film. Point and shoots will probably max out at lesser figure than that.
Then, once we reach that stage of evolution and acceptance we will see features coming into the cameras such as better noise and low light perfomance @ high ISO's and better dynamic range in what the sensors capture. Also GPS will become almost standard in the bodies so the images are tagged as to where they were captured.
I'm afraid that the marketing machine will march forward, and sensors will constantly be introduced with higher pixel counts far above 20mp. The people have spoken! (I'm happy with 12mp for what I do, but there are those that still equate image quality with pixel count, and that sells cameras....)
The only benefit above 20mp for the average user will be the ability to crop with less image quality loss. Pro shooters, and those printing extremely large images on a more frequent basis may want more pixels, but they'll want a new computer to go with them too...
One envious thing this camera has got is the ability to shoot in raw at reduced resolutions so this gives the best of both worlds. If you need 20MP, great. If you don't, you can shoot at 11MP or 6MP. I think every camera should have this ability - I wish that my D300 could do this - I seldom need a 12MP raw file.
>D300 @ 6mp and 12 frames per minute would be swell!!!
12 frames per minute! I think that the sRaw option is a great idea but would be so much better if they could use pixel binning so that you could have really low noise 10mp images for low light or really nice sharp 21mp images.