A couple of recent happenings have cemented how useful it is to have a great compact. They wouldnt let slr's into the cricket, and the rock concert wouldve squashed my slr. And probably foremost, all I really cared about from my friends' exotic holiday were the movie clips theyd managed to bring back. I figured people on here would have a bit of know how when it came to picking a compact that didnt disappoint, which ones do you use and recommend?
One thing about many P&S that really bugs me is the shutter lag. Press the shutter release, and some of them take up to a second or two to fire. That's ok for still life and such, but try to shoot anything with movement, like a kid at a birthday party and you will come to hate the shutter lag. Some of the P&S have gotten much better, but others... You have to actually try it out in a store to see what I mean.
The other as I mentioned is the flash. The P&S that use 2 AA batteries are pushing the limits of the flash, to recycle in a reasonable amount of time. Try it out and you will find that many of the cameras that use 2 AA seem to take forever to recycle.
I use a Coolpix S1 which is a nice pocketable size (but now several times superseded). I bought my daughter a Panasonic (Sorry - I can't remember the model number) which is really excellent. The image quality far surpasses the Nikon, and it is small and light.
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I had a Canon S70 and was very happy with it's spec and performance. However, technology has moved on and I would like to think that the mewer batch will be better, especially with high ISO noise control. With that in mind I will be looking at the Fuji F100 when it becomes available now that my nephew dropped and broke the S70 at the weekend. Not sure if that is a or a moment.
Why can't Nikon release a quality, compact P&S with a 28mm lens?
Now that is a question.
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Fuji has given up on their sensors with good higher ISO performance. The F100fd is just another compact with too many (12) megapixels with nothing special that would lead one to expect decent noise performance. The press release claims greater dynamic range, but it's not coming from the sensor as it does with the Fuji S3 and S5 where the sensor has a special high DR design with half its photosites designed to capture bright image information only.
The Fuji lacks aperture and shutter priortiy modes and has no raw capability.
I'd rather go for Panasonic LX-2 with its killer feature set. It's not great for noise but then the Fuji won't be either.
The best serious compact camera if you don't mind the extra bulk and weight is the Canon G9.
Sigma's DP1 had me interested with its DSLR-size sensor, but at $800 with a slow fixed focal length lens I lost my interest.
I honestly think digital compacts are getting worse. The Canons are not too bad - if only they'd reduce the pixcel count. But the deterioration of the Fuji line is astonishing. And no viewfinders is infuriating.
That said my son has a Canon 570is - a wonderful camera for the price..
It needn't be a DX sensor - a 6mp half the size of a DX sensor would keep me happy. And either a 24-70mm equivalent f/2.x - 3.x VR equivalent lens (or fixed 35mm equivalent f/2), no shutter leg and half decent AF speed, hot shoe, viewfinder, raw capability.
Make one and I promise to buy one...
The Canon G9 is not so far off but why all those pixcels and resultant noise. The Ricoh comes closer still but it's still so noisy...
>Fuji has given up on their sensors with good higher ISO >performance. The F100fd is just another compact with too many >(12) megapixels with nothing special that would lead one to >expect decent noise performance. The press release claims >greater dynamic range, but it's not coming from the sensor as >it does with the Fuji S3 and S5 where the sensor has a special >high DR design with half its photosites designed to capture >bright image information only. > >The Fuji lacks aperture and shutter priortiy modes and has no >raw capability. > >I'd rather go for Panasonic LX-2 with its killer feature set. >It's not great for noise but then the Fuji won't be either. > >The best serious compact camera if you don't mind the extra >bulk and weight is the Canon G9. > >Sigma's DP1 had me interested with its DSLR-size sensor, but >at $800 with a slow fixed focal length lens I lost my >interest.
Any thoughts on the Panasonic LX-3 that will be released soon? I have a D70 and 50mm 1.8, 85mm 1.8, 18-70DX, 18-200VR, 28-105mm and SB-800 flash. I currently have a Fuji F31 point and shoot for those times when I just want something small to fit in my purse. The Fuji is a really great camera but I am looking to upgrade to one with even more manual features including a histogram, the ability to shoot RAW, and a wider lens than your typical point and shoot. I have read a little about the LX-3 but am hesitant to purchase until I get some consumer feedback. I'm also wondering if there is any improvement in noise over the LX-2.
Any thoughts on other point and shoot cameras will be much appreciated.
...and about twice the price of it's equivalent Panasonic Lumix LX-2 with the same lens, camera platform and features. The Leica's prettier and it's supposed to use different noise processing for jpegs, but I'm going for the cheaper variant since I'll be shooting raw anyway.
I am anxious to get my hands on the new Fujifilm Finepix F100fd with 12 megapixels, 5x zoom from 28mm equivalent 1/1.6 CCD. The specs look awesome with lots of latest technology features. It appears to be a very compact, point and shoot version of the S5 Pro.
Hi Everybody Canon G9 nearly ticks all the box's I will not bother with the spec too much But for ease of carrying when going on holiday when flying were weight counts just goes in my top pocket no problem Regards FUJS5
Mon 14-Apr-08 09:26 AM | edited Mon 14-Apr-08 09:27 AM by William Symonds
I tried the Fuji S100 FD today briefly at Changi Airport. The ASA 1600 performance looks very good to me - nice focal length range too and based on a small sample good AF and metering... the 2 reviews on dpreview are by F30 owners who say the high ASA is as good as the F30.
I was very impressed indeed. I think I will probably get one...
The Canon G7 was the 'least worst' when I bought mine, and the G9 would now have that honour. The G9 fixes the omission of raw capture from the G7 (also now available to G7 users unofficially via the CHDK hack). However, both cameras have a lens that's rather limited at the wide end (35mm equivalent), a mediocre optical viewfinder (though still far better than nothing), and are just a little bit too bulky for shirt or trouser pockets (and rather heavy to wear on a belt). The direct access to important settings like ISO and mode via dials rather than menus is great, the image stabiliser seems to work well even at the long end of the lens (a useful 200mm equivalent), general image quality is very good, and although high ISO images are noisy, the G7 images I've tried clean up very well in Noiseware etc.
Nikon FM3a with a 45/2.8P Nikkor. If I need flash I have a SB-30 in my pocket.
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PRO: 1) 28 mm (FX equivalent) on wide side, in camera stiching for wider 2) Underwater up to 10 m! 3) Shock proof 4) No outside camera lens movement (such movement really disturbs me!) 5) Subcompact and light weight (200 g including battery) 6) Reasonable higher ISO performance for a subcompact (up to ISO 1600) 7) Dust proof 8) Easy and intuitive interface
CONS: 1) No manual or semi-automatic operation (I really would like something as Nikon M mode, or P and A) 2) No RAW output (tiff either) 3) No VR (optical stabilization) 4) Desnecessary 10.1 Mpixel - I would be happier with 4 Mpixels @ lower noise level, more speed and better IQ
It is really a P&S! Nothing more, except it was constructed as a tank!
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Sun 27-Apr-08 10:11 PM | edited Sun 27-Apr-08 10:12 PM by MYSTIFY
Konica Minolta DiMAGE Z5 - P,S,A,M modes - Nice movie mode (Quicktime .MOV) - Custom White Balance - Live Histogram
Brandon Nikon D80 & D300
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Just ordered a Canon A590 IS. Has a great feature set for ~$150. The only thing missing is manual focus control. Add $30 for Canon A720 IS and you get manual focus control as well as a 6x zoom. Not bad for the price.
I have an F4 and a 24mm or 20mm for my compact uses!
Never been impressed with P&S of any sort, but my mother has an older Fuji with a viewfinder and full control with manual mode, although the aperture range is a bit too small to really do anything interesting . . .
I just bought a Panasonic TZ5. 9MP, 28-280 zoom, image stabilized, an 'Intelligent Auto' setting, 3" LCD, etc. The knock is purported noise at high ISO's. I have owned it for only a day, and will be shooting with it exclusively for a while to see how it performs.
I hope to take it to the Eagles concert tonight to see if I can get any decent shots in a low-light setting. Next week it will go backpacking with us, which is one of the main reasons for getting it - portability.
I have a Fuji F31fd as my compact camera. I will use it until it draws its last pixel. It is a great camera. Here are a couple quickly taken samples taken in Lahaina, Hawaii last summer during vacation. If I were to buy one now, I think I would seriously look at the Panasonic Lumix LX-3.