Probably you notice new K10D. I think that the camera for the money will be a big BOOOM! And Nikon should do a better job in the future with introducing new futures in their cameras. I don't know why they didn't put anti-dust system or even VR in the body of the camera.
A threat, no way. Certainly not to the D200 and probably not to the D80 even though the K10D is more similar in build quality to the D80. Is it a good camera? Perhaps. Pentax and other companies keep upping the ante on what the camera will do and it's up to the individual to decide what they need for their purposes. Pentax optics lag far behind that of Nikon and that's one reason Nikon has a superior market share to Pentax (I'm sure others will chime in with other reasons). Pentax has chosen a different route to differentiate themselves in the market and I wish them luck and if you choose to buy the K10D or any other camera, that you are 100% satisfied with it.
I must say that I agree in some ways. I must tell that I have D200 and I'm totaly happy with it. We are just discussing here about competition.
If you ask me K10D is threat to D80 and also to D200 in some ways. It have water proof body, good grip, good VF (I think that the same as DS, etc..).
And what is most importat it have 10mpix with new 22bit image processing (I think better DR and IQ quality), but we must wait how really good it is.
And what is important to me is that you save money becouse of VR in the body, becouse you don't have to buy expensive VR lenses, and VR work on every lens which you put on. And in the end it have antidust system. Here it looks like Nikon will be (again) the last one who will have it.
And next year new "AF-S" lens from Pentax will come. If the price will be good then I really think pentax is a winner here.
I think that Pentax flash system is good. Maybe not so many features as Nikon have it but it compete with canon quite well. Yes Pentax have quite a good line of good lenses. Next year a good line of new "AF-S" lens.
Oh yes I think that will compete with D200 in picture quality. Let just wait and see what new 22bit converter and Prime procesor can do with colors and DR.
VR in body belongs on point and shoot and entry level DSLR's only... maybe it will get a share of that segment, but it will most likely not compete with the D200/30D and above. Looks like they are aiming for the entry level market. Will you be able to take a great pic with it? You bet... just like you can with Digi Rebel and D50.
>And Nikon should do a better job in the future with >introducing new futures in their cameras. I don't know why >they didn't put anti-dust system or even VR in the body of >the camera.
I totally agree. NOT having anti-dust is just silly. Anti-shake solution in body is also something every brand will have to have in the future. Just plain dumb not to have it in the camera body. Technology is here, so no excuse on that front. Imagine the wonder of being able to use those ooold lenses on a modern body w anti-shake.
When one of your halmarks is reliability, then not jumping on every latest tech bandwagon makes sense. I've heard conflicting reviews on if the anti dust systems available today are at all efective, but have no personal experiense. Yes Nikon is conservative, but in being so they are also by far the most reliable and dependable.
And where does the dust go? Is it zapped by a mini laser into the nothing? We all know how effective that adhesive strip was in that other brand that came out and lauded the "anti-dust" feature... what was the name of that one? Exactly.
>When one of your halmarks is reliability, then not jumping >on every latest tech bandwagon makes sense. I've heard >conflicting reviews on if the anti dust systems available >today are at all efective, but have no personal experiense. >Yes Nikon is conservative, but in being so they are also by >far the most reliable and dependable.
Havn't heard Canon having any problems at all. I don't think that halmark exists, especially not after the enormous problem as of bandng in the D200, recalling all of them. My old F90 metering just stoped working many years ago and it was not used that heavily.
I love Nikon cameras and have ONLY used Nikon since my first one in mid 70's, but most reliable and depandable? Don't think so. They are good but not above all others.
TBH, I havn't been in the photography field for years, since my F90 stoped working, and I don't know that much about todays brands big problems, so pls enlighten me on it. I havn't heard of any D200 competition having big problems, certainly not as big as that of D200 at it's release.
I've shot Pentax a bit and I still own an *ist D. They're easy to use, for the most part, and that's the main thing that drew me to them.
The K10D looks like it will be a good camera and, though some features will be on par with the Nikon D200, I suspect that it will be more comparable to the D80. And you'll still have to wait months and months before you can use one single Pentax lens that has a motor in the lens itself. Pentax makes good cameras, great lenses (though very few for dSLRs), but they take an aeon to release new products to the market. Look at their line of dSLRs; they've basically repackaged the same camera since 2003.
For anyone who wants a camera with many customisable features, a flexible flash system, and a selection of lenses that focus quickly, then Pentax dSLRs would probably not be their first choice.
As being a previous Pentax DS2 owner, I would hope they improve 100x over on their dreadfully poor AF. The worst I've seen in any SLR/DSLR camera period. In low light, forget it. Please note that Pentax has no USM/AS-F lenses yet either. Add those two together and you have a marginal camera for any respectable AF. There's a reason so many of the Pentax faithful depend on MF, they have too
And to add to the mix, my DS2 had a problem with the SD memory slot which took (yes I'm not kidding) over 5 months to repair since the parts had to be fabricated in Japan. Pentax is a very bit player, I just wish I wasn't the one that was bit. Never ever again. Stick with the big two.
They are great on small primes but anything in telephoto or longer range forget it. Their lens catalog is just not there.
>Havn't heard Canon having any problems at all. I don't think >that halmark exists, especially not after the enormous >problem as of bandng in the D200, recalling all of them.
In the interests of accuracy, banding did exist but was not the huge problem that some made it out to be. And there was no large-scale recall of the D200; Nikon issued a service advisory that the few D200 owners suffering from "long banding" could return their cameras for adjustment.
If you think that Nikon is alone in having teething problems with new cameras, you've not been reading the right sources...
Very true... I imaging the few that had the banding problem is like the ongoing problem with the 20D and the 30D regarding the battery flap flying open at the most inopportune times. I never had that happen with my 30D but the ones that did were screaming from the mountain tops with all the vigor of a yodeling contest.
And who can forget the backfocus issue that plagued many 10D and 300D owners? The forums were ablaze with their complaints for months. Also, the 1D was known to have banding problems, though not as widespread as the D200.
>In the interests of accuracy, banding did exist but was not >the huge problem that some made it out to be. And there was >no large-scale recall of the D200
Well, I heard differently, as you've realized from my post I actually waited until the new production releases came out just because of the banding problem. But, as there are always two sides to an issue, the truth to me is now somewhere in between.
>If you think that Nikon is alone in having teething problems >with new cameras, you've not been reading the right >sources...
So true. Which is why I pointed out that I havn't been that informed on this the last few years.
What I wanted was to balance out the notion on Nikon being so superior to others in reliability and dependance. All brands have issues at times, no one is perfect.
I'm the guy that always sees the grey tones. Nothing is perfect or worthless in every and all situations. Someone attacks (often by lack of knowledge or indoctrination) Windows, I defend it. Someone attacks (sam reason) Mac, I defend it. And so on...
>I'm the guy that always sees the grey tones. Nothing is >perfect or worthless in every and all situations. Someone >attacks (often by lack of knowledge or indoctrination) >Windows, I defend it. Someone attacks (sam reason) Mac, I >defend it. And so on...
No problem...! We don't mind if people criticise or defend Nikon or any other brand, it just helps if their attack or defence uses accurate facts. How much of a problem banding was depends on the individual's point of view, but the simple fact is that Nikon did not recall all D200's, for this or any other problem