"I was just looking through the Canon site's 1Ds page. All I can say is...whoa."
And that is the same thing that Canon User's said when the original Nikon D1 came out ...."whoa"...... (grin)..... Nikon will eventually come out with something for us to "whoa" over....but you are right...."whoa" (grin)....
>"I was just looking through the Canon site's 1Ds page. All I >can say is...whoa." > >And that is the same thing that Canon User's said when the >original Nikon D1 came out ...."whoa"...... (grin)..... >Nikon will eventually come out with something for us to >"whoa" over....but you are right...."whoa" (grin).... > >Mel
I hope you're right. I'd hate to see Nikon fall behind. The full frame sensor breakthrough is pretty exciting. I can't wait for my wide angles to be wide angles again.... Not that I have the cash to buy any new bodies any time soon!
Also, I hope the price of CF cards goes down to correspond with the increased storage requirements of full frame sensor SLRs.
Why can't Kodak be a solution for Nikon owners who want a digital body that uses their current Nikkor (or Nikon mount, non-OEM) lenses? For many years, that was the solution, a Kodak camera built into a Nikon body. However, I have not given up on Nikon to release a camera that matches the Canon and the Kodak in their features. You can't always be the first, and possibly by waiting, Nikon will release a better digital camera than the other manufacturers. Then again...maybe not.
I personally think you can take the Nikon loyalty thing too far. The business end of most Kodak DCS DSLRs has been a Nikon body. Kodak has the only F5 digital bodies and they pioneered the DSLR long before the D1. Kodak "gets" software design in ways that Nikon is still grappling with. Unlike Nikon, Kodak and Fuji provide TTL flash control without DX model Speedlights. So long as the foundation is a Nikon camera, I'm not so convinced that Nikon has superiority in the digital side of the equation.
There's a D2 somewhere down the line. If it's not announced at Photokina, I'm sure something will be by mid January. I would really be interested in knowing if Nikon was at all surprised that Kodak went full frame with the 14n camera. Obviously, Nikon R&D had to be deeply involved in the project since the body is a Nikon-made custom magnesium casting. If Nikon did the final assembly of the new Kodak, they certainly know what the innards would be.
I don't know how many pros or amateurs out there are eagering to buy a 14 megapixis Kodak, or a 1Ds, or waiting for the D2; all I need is simply a D100H which delivers improved direct Jpeg images and employs a bigger buffer, and costs no more than $2,200. Better ship before X'mas!
Now lets take it easy gentlemen. Hold your horses. I do not know when D1, D1x + H was announced. But they were probably as usual only available 6 month after. Just like the D100, announced in february and we could buy it in August. One month ago. Why this stupid lag time ? I understand the the marketing boys in Nikon are busy 6 month ahead of the research and production team have finished with their bussiness. But for us custumers it is irritating.
I think, however, Nikon needs much longer time to reflect over D100, and see the sales figures, before a new D2 is released. Not that I compare these two lines. Not that I compare the different consumers. Obviously Nikon have not used Photokina this year to announce new products, since the 80-200 VR have been promised - also 6-7 month ago - if I remember right.
The 6.3 mpixel CCD in D100 is apparently Sony's, since Sony announced their CCM one week prior to D100 in february. Hence we need to find out where the full size CCD bussiness is right now. Not Canons, Fuji's or Kodaks, which I do not know where come from. It would be natural to look at Sony's CCD R&D. Are they ready with new sensors ? If so it would probably not take Nikon long to build that into a F5 type first, and later perhaps to produce a D200. The last will take at least a year, since as I write the D100 team have just finished and the marked is going up up up. They will not start to produce a D200 in that situation. A D200 will also only compete with a D2, which D100 already does to D1.
I am not familiar with the release frequensies of the F3, F4, and F5 line, but I think it is much slower than the F/N 60, 65 80 100 side. Look at these release dates in order to guess on the date for D2, and compare that to what Sony is fumling around with. The higher frequency of the cheaper bodies is only natural as the marked for that line is much bigger. Hence the D2 will only to a less extend have influence on the D100 sales, since D2 will end on 5-7000 US. The other way around I think is different. Some of you professional boys would probably buy a new D200 to US 2000, if it came out with continued deep silence on the D2.
But the D1H + X assembly line is probably less busy right now, meaning when sales goes down, we will see a new D2.
Another question which could be interesting was the sales figures for Canon and Nikon. Kodak and Fuji are probably still far behind these two giants. I would guess that Canon is larger, meaning they have a larger potential to develope new products. Look at the old German products. They have fallen behind with the research.
That last thing here is the reason why I do not quite understand this lagtime. When D2 is announced, the D1 sales will go drastically down, since people are waiting. This means 6 month with less and less sales. If the reajustments on the conveyer belts could be done faster, the sales could be kept more steady. But who knows how these japanese Nikon bussiness boys are thinking. Not me.
I cannot make conclusions on this long letter - I'm waiting for Getright to be finished with my 15 mb 5.1.3. - since I lack data on the above. Maybe others can.
I have heard about Nikon's use of Sony's CCD's mentioned several times, sometimes implying dependence. Does anybody know exactly what the realtionship between them is? Does Nikon design the sensor and Sony builds it? Do they both participate in the design process? Does Nikon contract Sony to build a sensor with a certain specificaions in certain time frame (e.g. it seems that this is what Kodak did with Fillfactory when they built the recent 14MP sensor)? I can not believe that Nikon just waits till Sony figures out how to build a certain X MP sensor and then take whatever Sony has to offer. I am just curious. Hesham
I don't think Nikon have ever officially confirmed that they use Sony CCDs in their DSLRs.
About two weeks before Nikon announced the D100 Sony had announced a CCD that exactly matched the specifications of the one used in the camera - so it wasn't hard to guess where it came from.
The sensors used in the D1, D1h and D1x have never appeared elsewhere so it may be they are built to Nikon's specifications by Sony. In the case of the D2 (or whatever it gets called) I'd guess the same may well apply; the sensor could be custom built for Nikon and not be generally available to other manufacturers - hence we won't know anything about it until the camera is announced.