Sun 27-Nov-11 11:40 PM | edited Sun 27-Nov-11 11:43 PM by pjr
I used to shoot with a Rolleicord years ago - my Dad's - and have been thinking of buying a used Rolleiflex on eBay, where they run from about $400 to $4000. Joining the Roleiflex group on Facebook has only fueled that desire.
I think the waist level finder would be great for street plus people wouldn't take the sight of it seriously. Also, I think using film would really slow me down, and, being more careful and thoughtful could improve my street photography.
I see some nice ones for around $800.00.
I know I could use a D5100 or Nex-7 at waist level, but there's a nostalgic feeling I have towards Rollei TLRs.
Could anyone talk me out of this, LOL? Do you think I'll de disillusioned with it after several years of digital? Should I just get a d5100 with a flip screen (I'd love it if the d400 has a flip screen)?
LOL, I haven't thought of using a reflex camera for ages. I had one that I bought on a garage sale and it became a favorite tool - a 6x6 with tri-x, a good dark-room and an affinity for a fixed focal length lens can produce great results. I used to use a Rolleiflex for a good share of my photography after that find - it was the reason for my first hand-held light meter. I used it often with my small children. For off the cuff candid I used the built-in sports finder, not the waist level finder. I used the waist level finder for low-level floor shots.
If you remember, the viewfinder view is reversed from right to left with the reflex finder. The focusing is often slow and critical focusing often requires the use of the magnifier. With the 80mm lens, you need a high f/stop to begin to take any advantage of DOF forgiveness.
You are gaining the large format, access to great 6x6 tri-x grain structure in this format and lots of cropping latitude.
The allure of medium format. Big negative, quiet, stealthy... Hold it 90 degrees to the direction you are facing and most people won't even realize they are in the shot. There is also the Mamiya C330 system cameras with interchangeable lenses and viewfinders. A bit bigger with a long throw bellows for closeup work. I have a few.
Mon 28-Nov-11 04:33 PM | edited Mon 28-Nov-11 04:39 PM by Larry E30
I say Vivian Maier !!!!! , Go for it - bet it would be fun...and to partisapate in your club...rounds it off nicely.
You say D5100,I say go for the TLR ,;BECAUSE - I wanted to use my D5000 for 95% swivel shooting...but - I'm useing it for 98% viewfinder... I should have bought the Panasonic GH1 - outfit to do that... but now I do love my D5100 and VERY wide asortment of lenses. (Which I would be hard pressed for in Panasonic)
Bottom line ...if you can put up wth (- or rather enjoy)FILM... then this would be awesome fun.
Personally - I love square.
See if ya can get a 2.8 version.You may need it...in not being able to change your ASA while shooting.
Best of luck , Larry
Edit - and as mentioned - Mamiya .you can have 3 main lens ;wide,normal and telephoto ,AND A BUILT IN METER. Maybe some of those old FAST TLR's have a lightmeter.!!!Best!?!
Mon 28-Nov-11 09:29 PM | edited Tue 29-Nov-11 11:56 AM by jpFoto
>Could anyone talk me out of this, LOL? Do you think I'll de disillusioned with it after several years of digital? Should I just get a d5100 with a flip screen (I'd love it if the d400 has a flip screen)?
Get a grip! Don't buy any more cameras! Don't buy the Rollie and don't buy the D5100. You have enough stuff, and it's all really nice. I have a friend who has an Aston Martin, a Bentley, a Mercedes S550, and a Rover, the expensive one. How can you get up in the morning and decide which car you want to drive or which camera you want to take with you today? My father had a Rollie too which I used more than him, but it doesn't hold a candle to the stuff that you have (or me for that matter). I like to have just one nice "piece of equipment" that I know and love. I have a couple of other cameras, but my true love is my D3S, and, of course, my wife.
How can you remember how to use each camera? The buttons are in different places, and everything else is different from camera to camera.
>I see some nice ones for around $800.00.
If you really are H...Bent on buying a 2-1/4 film camera for that much money, you might want to look at a Hasselblad with an 80mm T* lens. I sold my like new copy with 2 backs for $850 on CL about 4 years ago. It was by far the best film camera that I had ever owned. The IQ was incredible.
The square format was my only complaint about the Hasselblad. Try to buy an "already built" frame. When I looked down into the view finder, I was always thinking "rectangle."
As I said, that was my only complaint. I had refused to let go of mine until I got my D700, but this is definitely a new and better age. As cold-hearted as it may sound, I don't miss the Hasselblad after owning the D700 and now the D3S. That being said, I have no plans to ever upgrade again. But, who knows.
Fri 16-Dec-11 11:34 PM | edited Sat 17-Dec-11 03:44 PM by Larry E30
Phil ,I did it , I got me a Vivian camera.
I bought and sold a Zeiss 35-70 Vario...and profited (cleared)$250.00; so...
that Yashica 124G was strongly on my mind...
I know I can't change the ASA...but ...I'm planning to use tripod for most,unless plenty of light for HH at 250th or 500th. -I plan to shoot Provia 160 @ 125 ISO My south camera store carries it and developes it,and I plan to scan a good shot here and there ...to post.
I won't use it all the time...but,once in a while for fun..., and the art of.
Film to computer will cost about $30.00 Now that's alot considering digital - I basicly do free.
WELL - VERY happy day .... Larry
So now , I'm finding worms...everywhere...! I may have to eat my worms(or is it words).
Oh - I consider square to be an awesome format in inself. ... !
A ways back - I suggested a 'square format' thread.Square is romance.
Sun 18-Dec-11 03:04 PM | edited Sun 18-Dec-11 03:05 PM by pjr
Still not decided, Larry. I very well might get one, but probably not right now, since I have other money priorities (Xmas!), but we'll see. There are some very nice Rolleiflexes on ebay right now, but then, there probably always are. I actually dug out my Dad's old Rolleicord yesterday to get a feel for what it's like again, I like it, but unfortunately there was something wrong with the film advance. Might be worth having fixed?
The Sony Nex-7 has caught my eye, but I'd like to see what new cameras are announced in the new year, especially Fuji's upcoming x200 with replaceable lenses, a possible Sony FF announcement and maybe a big surprise from Canon in the mirrorless department. Exciting times for camera nuts like me! But - I need to focus on photography and forget about the cameras...I think.
Oh yes, forgot to mention that I got an Epson V600 scanner and was scanning some old MF film, it really does a great job, and the MF negatives have fantastic resolution. Another reason to get a Rolleiflex.
No, Larry, I was watching and in the very last few seconds, someone else bid. The next day I bid on another, almost mint, beautiful Rollei with Carl Zeiss 2.8 Planar, and again, in the last seconds, another bid won. I'm going to forget about it for a while.
There's a strong nostalgia thing going on in my head these days, but the bottom line for me is improving my photography, something nostalgia won't help!