I'm trying to decide between these two Bogen tripods. The 3221WN looks better in these regards: Max ht w/o column extension 54.3" vs 53.0"; min ht 3.2" vs 4.3"; includes padding on upper legs vs no padding; 3221 has spiked feet as well. Drawbacks of the 3221WN include wt of 6.2 lbs vs 5.3 lbs for 3021BPro, and $13 additional cost.
I suspect the additional pound of weight (0.5kg) would be a drawback on hikes, offsetting the inch or so of height variations. The padding I could install myself for a couple dollars using pipe insulation. The spiked feet, for outdoor work, would be handy, though.
Anyone used both and care to compare? I've seen many mentions of the 3021, but none of the 3221.
#1. "RE: Bogen 3221WN or 3021BPro?" | In response to Reply # 0jrp Charter MemberWed 17-Apr-02 02:11 AM
The 3221 is preferred by tall people. 55.1" at 6.5 lbs; 26.3" folded.
The 3021 by tall to average height persons. 54.75" at 6.5 lbs; 25.6" folded.
The 3011 by average height photographers. 52.7" at 5.3 lbs; 24" folded.
The 3001 by us, the "not so tall", physically. 46.5" at 3.75 lbs; 20.5" folded. Benefiting from a much lighter carrying weight.
As for the rubber protected legs, I bought some foam piping insulation of the proper size and placed it where I wanted with plastic security strings and saved a little for a better head.
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#2. "RE: Bogen 3221WN or 3021BPro?" | In response to Reply # 1mike_1 Basic MemberWed 17-Apr-02 10:43 PM
One thing to consider with those spiked feet is, if you are going to use it indoors at all they sure are tuff on hard wood floors. I had a tripod with spiked feet once and I did not find much advantage outdoors with them. They slide on hard rocks, and on soft ground I can tell no difference between spikes and soft rubber ends. Just some food for thought.
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#3. "RE: Bogen 3221WN or 3021BPro?" | In response to Reply # 2f5fstop Basic MemberWed 17-Apr-02 11:03 PM
I have found the spiked feet to come in handy many times. As for using indoors, that's no problem with the Bogen spiked feet. Each spiked foot has a threaded rubber end that screws out and covers the spike, and now you have a rubber end. Screw the rubber cover inwards towards the top of the tripod, and now you have a spiked end.
I just purchased the leg covers last week, and haven't been home to try them out (or even retreive the package); therefore, I can't say they were worth the price or not.
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#4. "RE: Bogen 3221WN or 3021BPro?" | In response to Reply # 0
I forget where, but I read somewhere you can also use those rubber bicycle handlebar tapes, mostly found on racing bikes. They're thick enough and spongy enough to both insulate and soften the "load" (especially if you like slinging tripods over your shoulder).
I have a 15 year old aluminum Bogen 3021. These sturdy tripods really bring out the best in Nikon lens performance.
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#5. "RE: Bogen 3221WN or 3021BPro?" | In response to Reply # 0
I will also chime in on this...
I looked long and hard at both tripods, and ended up buying the 3021BPRO.....
The 3221 was a little more heavy, while the 3021 was already heavy enough. Also, I did not need the extra height (I am 5'9")....and even now, the 3021 can be way too tall!!!
I have now used the 3021 on gravel, sand, pavement, and textured walkways....and some of these were moderately steep angles, with no slipping.....
Actually, all the 3021BPRO has done is make me want a $$$$ Gitzo even more....(though so far, the 3021 has served me quite nicely)
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#6. "RE: Bogen 3221WN or 3021BPro?" | In response to Reply # 5dwcbuckeye Registered since 18th Apr 2002Mon 22-Apr-02 12:17 PM
I just received my 3021BPro and love it. I will comment on its height. It is certainly tall enough for me. I am almost 74 inches tall and fully extended it is maybe an inch tall for me.