Anybody use the RRS Long Lens Support?
Thinking of adding RRS's Long Lens Support Package on the larger glass, looking for feedback from those with real world experience.
I'd use it on the 400VR and possibly(hopefully) in the future with the 600VR. Might rent the 800 on occasion. Really, does it help?
Would be used with the WH 200 on a Gitzo 5541 if that makes a difference.
Another question, my best shooting buddy replaced the lower arm/clamp assembly on his Wimberley with the RRS PG-CC, saves a lot of knob twisting when mounting a lens. I've tried it a couple of times, seems like a nice upgrade. Haven't worked with it enough to thoroughly evaluate impact on IQ but it's definitely an improvement in setup. Again, anybody with any experience?
TIA for the feedback,
P.S. Is there any plan to upgrade forum software to make it simple to add a link? I mean, really, we're 12 years into the 21st century, why do I need to consult an HTML reference to insert a link? Sheesh...
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#1. "RE: Anybody use the RRS Long Lens Support?" | In response to Reply # 0RECONLEY Nikonian since 18th Jun 2012Thu 31-Oct-13 11:11 PM
I added the RRS PG-CC to my Wimberley about 6 months ago. I have seen no degradation in IQ. However, mounting and dismount the long glass is much easier. Well worth the cost IMHO.
I see the long lens support adding to IQ when you are shooting in SS range where mirror flap will be degrading IQ. This is not an area where I use my long glass much and I have not purchased the product.
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#3. "RE: Anybody use the RRS Long Lens Support?" | In response to Reply # 0nrothschild Registered since 25th Jul 2004Fri 01-Nov-13 01:55 PM
I have used the RRS LLS for several years now, on a Gitzo GT3541LS and WH-200, mainly with a 500/4 AFS and D300 or sometimes D700.
RRS claims it adds "15% more stability", or something like that. Sounds about right to me. There is a marginal improvement, and not just with slow shutter speeds. When using Long Lens Technique it helps -a little - to keep your left hand from doing more harm than good .
The value of the device is directly and inversely dependent to the rigidity of the lens foot and collar mechanism. It is more helpful with weak lens feet. My older 500/4 AFS (original AFS version, not the CF Mk II) is a relatively "heavy metal" lens in most regards. I've heard varying opinions on the merits of Nikon lens feet on various models made in various eras. But I don't have any specific experience to say more than "your results *may* vary depending on lens".
Another interesting feature of the LLS device is that if the front end Y yoke is pressed tightly to the lens barrel, as it should be, then it is possible to shoot the lens with the lens collar tightening knob loose, such that enough tension is on the collar to keep the barrel stable but the lens is easily rotated. And this is the way I usually shoot the lens with the LLS installed.
The dual clamp that attaches the lens to the camera bar is extremely sensitive to plate width and geometry. It is far more sensitive than an RRS lever clamp, for example. Third party lens feet or plates that work in an RRS lever may not work in that dual clamp. And personally I would be somewhat nervous about using any lens plate without stop pins, even my RRS replacement foot. Just out of general principle and especially if doing over the shoulder carries.
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#4. "RE: Anybody use the RRS Long Lens Support?" | In response to Reply # 0jgould2 Nikonian since 13th Oct 2007Sun 17-Nov-13 04:24 PM | edited Sun 17-Nov-13 04:25 PM by jgould2
Like Neil I have had the RRS Long lens support for quite a while and my opinion is that the increase in stability is about the 15% they advertise. I use it with my 600 f/4 and 500 f/4 lenses. I generally shoot with a Wimberley gimbal.
However, mine only works right when the bubble level is upside down. This is an anomaly you probably won't encounter but it points out the plate tolerance problem that Neil was mentioning.
#5. "RE: Anybody use the RRS Long Lens Support?" | In response to Reply # 0s2sailorlis_nikon Nikonian since 19th Jun 2012Mon 02-Dec-13 06:10 PM
You may want to look at the Hejnar support as well as I believe it is about $90 v. $200+.
#6. "RE: Anybody use the RRS Long Lens Support?" | In response to Reply # 5jgould2 Nikonian since 13th Oct 2007Mon 02-Dec-13 06:39 PM | edited Mon 02-Dec-13 06:58 PM by jgould2
Except for the 10" bar with the double sided clamp from Hejnar which matches up with the RRS Long Lens Support. That is $200 as well.
I noticed, however that the RRS version is now $290.
#7. "RE: Anybody use the RRS Long Lens Support?" | In response to Reply # 0
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who replied and apologize for not getting back sooner. My bad, so solly, etc..
Second, here are updated links to the RRS site since they've revised their website and broken the previous links:
Long Lens Support package
PG-CC Cradle Clamp
Since my initial post I bought the PG-CC clamp assembly and I'm really happy with it. I haven't noticed any difference in IQ from the Wimberly clamp but it's a whole lot easier to use and works fine with the Wimberly foot on the 400/2.8. The round knob is easier on the fingers than the Wimberly knob as well, I'll call this one an improvement.
The consensus seem to be that the RRS LLS offers some improvement in IQ and I like the Neil's suggestion of pre-tensioning the support yoke so you don't have to lock down the lens collar. Seems like a plus.
Since I just added the 600/4 VR to my collection, I'm wondering whether to go with the RRS setup with the B2-Duo clamp(which RRS assures is compatible with the Wimberly feet) or buy 2 of the Hejnar 10" setups without clamps and bolt each one to a lens at a lesser cost.
Weight for the Hejnar setup totals 7.3 oz., the RRS weighs in at 20.2. Seems like a big difference for a single clamp....
Cost isn't an issue but IQ and ease of use is.
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