I posted a query one month ago about the utility of L-Brackets. From what I learned in your advise, I'd like to get one.
Either a Kirk or an RRS because they are one piece anodized aluminum. My camera is a D7000. I would use the bracket only when I do product shots or portraits. I would use a 60mm G lens -- relatively small.
My question is this. Can I use the non-grip bracket when the grip is attached to the camera. In either brand, the cost of a bracket that would fit my gripped camera body is nearly $200, whereas I could buy the bracket to fit the body only would $50 less.
I won't use this setup often, and I certainly wouldn't want access to swap out the grip battery with the bracket on. Can I use the non-grip bracket on the gripped camera, or is there some physical obstructions?
I don't tether. I don't often swap batteries in the grip. I want to save money. The bracket would be attached only infrequently, and certainly only in my house.
Thanks, JRP. I looked at your links. And I just got off the phone with the folks at Really Right Stuff. I won't consider an accessory that is bolted tother or has adjustments. There is just too much weight bearing down on it, especially with a longer lens.
RRS said that 2 things about a camera with a grip make the regular L bracket a problem:
a) the contours or profile at the bottom of the grip is very different. So the regular L bracket wouldn't fit correctly or be secure.
b) and, as is obvious even in photographs, the upward leg of the regular bracket doesn't align properly either with the access door on the camera, nor the battery chamber in the grip. I don't mind the latter, but I do use a corded remote cable that plugs into the USP port beneath that left hand door.
As I see it now, there is no alternative to the $180 tariff charged either by Kirk or RRS for the correct L bracket. Thanks
I have Nikon Grips on my D200, D300, D700, and D800E. I also keep an L-Bracket on each body/grip combination. The only time the L-Brackets are removed is when I clean the bodies. I have never found the need to keep a second battery in the camera body. The L-Brackets for the grips are designed to allow the battery in the grip to be replaced without having to remove the L-Bracket.
While they are expensive, the L-Brackets are worth it. In addition to being able to quickly mount the camera on a tripod or monopod, the bracket also provides protection for the body.
I have RRS L plates on my F100, F5, D200 w/grip and D800 w/grip. I don't keep a battery in the camera body on the D800. The D200 grip holds both batteries. I don't have a grip on the F100 and the F5 has a built-in grip.
Shoot nature with respect and don't trample it or startle its inhabitants. :)
I have RRS L plates on both of my D700's w/grip and w/out grip. I keep a battery in camera (with grip) and in the grip as well. I customized my menu so the D700 uses the battery in the grip first so I'm not having to remove the L plate as often to swap out the battery in my camera body. I also like the feature of being able to easily switch between landscape and portrait.
After two days of shooting with the bracket, here is how I score it:
Extra Weight in bag ---- minus Ease of mounting on QR -- plus Speed of changing from Landscape to Portrait -- definite plus Access to plug in doors --- minus
I can see how having this thing on the camera acts as a bumper. But this comes at a real deficit in weight and ease of putting it in or out of the camera bag. It snags on everything and makes for a tight fit.
And with the remote cord plugged into the USB port on the left side, the bracket in portrait mode can only be partially slid onto the QR. The cord blocks about 30% of the bracket dovetails.
I guess it's just a learning experience and a bit of a trade off for convenience. I don't believe any other brand of bracket could improve on these liabilities.
It might help if you posted some images of the L bracket on the camera and/or better identified exactly which L bracket you bought. Most generic L brackets are rather (necessarily) bulkier than the custom fit brackets and therefore weigh more and get in the way more, in the bag and out.
The cord in the side port is a problem everyone has. Both RRS and Kirk make spacers to try to deal with this better, allowing some room for the cord to bend just beyond the strain relief.
I've never used a spacer because my cameras all have the 10 pin remote connector on the camera body front and I don't do tethered shooting. So can't speak with experience for them.
I've had problems in certain bags, but mostly with my grip + L. Thinking about the ThinkTank holster for Pro body or add-on grip. A D700 is a particularly tight fit. I guess it depends on the bag and how tight they cut the compartment.
Having been here quite some time now, my sense is that while many people really like the feel of the L bracket and leave it on all the time, others have more mixed feelings. Difficult to predict but your votes are cast!
OK. That looks like the model specified for the D7000, probably not a "generic". Or perhaps one size fits many? I'm not familiar with the brand. It is shaped a bit different (in the elbow) than the RRS and Kirk equivalents.
If you have an accurate postal scale it would be interesting to know what it weighs.
Yeah, the elbow region is different because the vertical and horizontal components meet there. The vertical is bolted to the lip end of the horizontal.
amazon's website claims the bracket weighs 8 oz. I would expect that it would weigh slightly more than brackets which are CNC machined from one piece of aluminum. Too much work for me to unbolt, and then weigh, and then attach again.
Can you tell me what your bracket weighs? The RRS website states their bracket for a gripped D7000 weighs less than half what mine does. 3.9 oz. I guess that is what $200 buys a person. I bought this ProMedia here on Nikonians I Want to Sell Forum.
Postscript: I just weighed the bracket. 5.9 oz, so amazon might have been referring to shipping weight. Which would include the Allen wrench.
My RRS bracket for the MB-D10 (D700 or D300 with grip) weighs 4.6 oz on my postal scale. Their D7000 bracket is likely a bit smaller so that is reasonably consistent with their D7000 bracket weight of 3.9 oz.
RRS's BMBD11-L bracket for D7000 with grip is listed as weighing 3.9 oz. If your bracket actually weighs 8oz, then it is double that weight. It would be helpful if you could weigh yours since it would be important info for others trying to make a choice.
You must not have seen he end of my last post. I weighed the ProMedia and it weighs just over 5 oz. So Amazon must have been referring to total shipping weight when they asserted an 8oz weight for the same unit,