This might be a dumb question.
I have a Manfrotto 322 RC2 heavy duty grip ballhead which is rated at 11 lbs. I am considering matching it with Manfrotto 055CX Pro4 tripod legs, rated at 17 lbs. The Manfrotto camera support configurator says it is an unbalanced system because the head and legs do not match. The 190CX Pro4 is considered balanced having the same load rating, 11 lbs. I want the 055CX because it is a higher tripod, I am 6ft tall.
I can see no reason I cannot use an 11 lb rated head with a 17 lb rated tripod legs or am I wrong?
#1. "RE: Unbalanced Manfrotto system" | In response to Reply # 0Replytoken Registered since 08th Mar 2008Sat 06-Apr-13 08:24 PM | edited Sat 06-Apr-13 08:25 PM by Replytoken
>This might be a dumb question.
>I have a Manfrotto 322 RC2 heavy duty grip ballhead which is
>rated at 11 lbs. I am considering matching it with Manfrotto
>055CX Pro4 tripod legs, rated at 17 lbs. The Manfrotto camera
>support configurator says it is an unbalanced system because
>the head and legs do not match. The 190CX Pro4 is considered
>balanced having the same load rating, 11 lbs. I want the
>055CX because it is a higher tripod, I am 6ft tall.
>I can see no reason I cannot use an 11 lb rated head with a 17
>lb rated tripod legs or am I wrong?
In short, IMHO, buying the 190 to "match" a sales configurator would be a major step backwards. Granted, if you purchased an 055, your head could probably be considered a weak link in comparison to it, but that is no reason not to purchase it. If the 055 meets your budget and needs (now and or future), it should serve you well. In the future, you can always upgrade your head if it is not serving you well. I believe there are a few folks with various Markins heads on their 055's IIRC.
The question you may want to ask, if you have not already done so, is will an 055 meet your equipment's needs? What equipment are you planning on using with your new set-up?
#3. "RE: Unbalanced Manfrotto system" | In response to Reply # 1Sun 07-Apr-13 12:45 AM
Ken, thank you for your reply.
I am using a D800 with a 24-70 and 70-200. The largest lens is a Sigma 150-500.
The D800 and 150-500 is 6.2 lbs, within the 11lbs rating of the 322RC2 ballhead.
#4. "RE: Unbalanced Manfrotto system" | In response to Reply # 3MEMcD Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Sun 07-Apr-13 12:34 PM
The 24-70mm f/2.8 is a very front heavy lens that will push the 322RC2 torque resisting capcity to the max even though it is well under the weight capacity. The issue will be even more apparent if you shoot in portrait orientation.
Since the 70-200mm and the 150-500mm both have a tripod foot they should balance on the 322RC2 much better than the 24-70mm.
#2. "RE: Unbalanced Manfrotto system" | In response to Reply # 0
You are correct.
The 055 series will provide more stability than the 190 series even with the 322 RC2 head.
Eventually you might find yourself wanting to upgrade the head.
You might want to consider the 055CX3 instead of the 055CX Pro4
since the articulated center column is not as stable as a fixed center column. You will also save a few $ in the process.
#5. "RE: Unbalanced Manfrotto system" | In response to Reply # 2Sun 07-Apr-13 02:38 PM
>You might want to consider the 055CX3 instead of the 055CX Pro4 since the articulated center column is not as stable as a fixed center column.
I am going to guess the articulated center column can be used horizontal and the fixed center column cannot. So far I do not need to use the horizontal position.
Thank you for the info on the 055CX3, I am retired and money is a bit tight.
The other lens I will probably be using is the 24-120 f/4. It is i/2 lb. lighter than the 24-70.
If I have to I can put the old Benro ballhead on the new tripod.
Thank you for your help.
#6. "RE: Unbalanced Manfrotto system" | In response to Reply # 0
You are being cautioned that despite the greater carrying weight of the tripod, you are limited by the weight capacity of the head. It's the old "a chain is only as strong as its weakest link," or a camera support can only support as much weight as its least capable component. So, if your head is quite adequate for the "rig" you put on it, don't worry about the mis-match. If, on the other hand, you are planning on using a heavy rig (say a DSLR with a large tele-zoom) you might want to upgrade the head.
I have a Manfrotto 055CX Pro3 and it is a fabulous tripod. It has the added height you require, I believe. Depending on what you like to shoot (e.g., wildlife or sports) you may want to add a gimbal head in the future. At that time you can "match" weights, if you desire.
#7. "RE: Unbalanced Manfrotto system" | In response to Reply # 0
The configurator is trying to get you to buy a tripod and head that are balanced. It isn;t really designed to try to tell you "what works" in the case where you already own one component. And "what works" is a very complex question, beyond the scope of the configurator.
My experience reading comments about these pistol grip heads is that many people like them. Others do not. It is partly based on expectations and likely partly based on the gear. As you can see from the payload rating, these heads are not specifically designed for relatively very heavy payloads.
It is the nature of payload ratings that they should not be taken literally. For example, my Markins M20 is rated for an over 100 LB payload. I would not want to put an 80 LB payload on that head. It would hold it up but it would not perform the way it was intended. And this is true of all heads.
If you own the head and it is doing the job for you with the gear you put on it, then you should keep using it. The performance will tell you when you need a new head. The ratings or that configurator will not.
IF you do replace the head, I think you should carefully study user comments of the head(s) you consider, and you should carefully consider comments of those using the same class gear. Same camera and more importantly same lens weight, size and focal length.
Regardless of the head, I think you should buy a tripod that meets the needs of the gear you will put on it, and I think you should not consider the existing head in the equation.
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