Wed 14-Mar-12 11:38 AM | edited Wed 14-Mar-12 11:43 AM by gplauche
Thank you for the link to the table. I did not realize that the Kirk bracket would be suitable for the Markins ballhead. I visited the Markins website before posting this question and saw that they did not offer one themselves.
Fri 16-Mar-12 07:47 AM | edited Mon 19-Mar-12 05:11 PM by jrp
Kirk plates and L-Brackets work very well on the Markins ball heads, whether with a knob type clamp or a lever one. Markins is also making one L-bracket for the D4 but we don't yet have any definitive delivery date news about it. The cameras are still hard to come by.
Thu 29-Mar-12 03:46 AM | edited Thu 29-Mar-12 03:49 AM by jrp
The Markins D3U camera plate works perfectly on the D4. The Kirk PZ-121 plate has been reported by a couple of our members as working fine on the D4, however, a new PZ-145 is coming out soon. L-brackets from both manufacturers will be at the shop soon.
Sat 31-Mar-12 10:56 AM | edited Sat 31-Mar-12 11:19 AM by PeterBeckett
Hi Ramon, Maybe, but maybe not...
The Kirk BL-D3 does overlap the door to the peripheral port, but all others are fully accessible.
FWIW, I am not sure that it's even possible for the LHS of an L bracket to be machined to allow the cover of the peripheral port to be fully opened and something installed through the "hole" in the bracket. The standard sized dovetail might not allow for enough extra metal to be removed if the "round" cover needed to be fully opened and the port used.
If anyone could post some shots of a D4 with a RRS L bracket that's specific to the D4, I would be extremely interested...
This thread is about L brackets, not simple camera plates.
Would you like me to post some close-up shots of the BL-D3 on a D4?
Sat 31-Mar-12 01:22 PM | edited Sat 31-Mar-12 01:22 PM by nrothschild
Given the questions you raise, your image will be important, for comparison, in the event anyone posts an image of the D4 L bracket. It will also generally help people decide before buying a D4 if their D3 L is "good enough" in the matter of that door.
I agree that with some cameras the Arca-Swiss plate geometry limits the plate maker's options.
OK, so unexpected rain showers have changed my weekend plans...
Please see the attached "snaps" showing a Kirk BL-D3 mounted on my D4. I included some shots in which there is a cable in every connector except the peripheral port. No stress was involved whatsoever with plugging these in, either with the covers or the cables themselves. Obviously, it is pretty unlikely that anyone would want to use such a configuration. I did it only to illustrate the lack of any problem.
BTW, in case you might be wondering, the battery compartment is as easy to open as when the same bracket is on a D3/D3X.
I'd be happy to answer any resulting questions.
Pete (Yes, I saw it too! I should have cleaned the camera's monitor glass!)
Sat 31-Mar-12 10:41 PM | edited Sat 31-Mar-12 10:42 PM by PeterBeckett
Hi Neil, LOL (literally!) Yeah, I'm waiting to see what colour the bacterial colonies turn after they mature for a few more hours!
Seriously, it's my nose that usually greases up the glass! I guess I need a design change! It would surely be far more convenient (photographically speaking) if my nose were on the back of my head... Mmmm! Gotta think about that for a bit! Would such a change be patentable?
You're right about the finger holes. It would actually be better for the D4 if there were three rather than just two. As you know, the D3 has two rows of connector covers - and they line up nicely with the cutouts. However, the D4 has three rows of connector covers. When the D3 bracket is installed on a D4 the middle row (mic in and headphone out) of covers needs either a longish fingernail or a probe of some sort to unlock it - as it's behind the metal that is in-between the cutouts - but that little inconvenience isn't worth the price of a new bracket if you already own one!
I emailed Markins and asked about the forthcoming L bracket for the D4. They replied "We don't have a confirmation yet whether Markins will make an L-bracket for the D4 or not. We will update you if we decide to make one in the near future."
I have ordered the Kirk BL-D3. Thank you for your help in finding out that this will indeed fit the D4.
It doesn't look as if the Kirk is shipping yet but RRS claims theirs is. Both appear to have an increased space (relative to the BL-D3)for access to the rubber connector covers, but, neither would appear to allow access to the D4's "peripheral connector".
I continue to happily use my Kirk BL-D3 on my D4 - but didn't have to buy anything as I already had it.
I can't answer specifically as I don't have a Markins Q20. However, I can say that I have sveral "L" brackets and simple plates that all work completely interchangeably with all the Arca Swiss type receivers that I have (Wimberley, RRS, Benro and Kirk). If I were a betting man, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts(English) that there would be no problem whatsoever with the Q20. I have handled Markins products, but don't own any of their ballheads. They are superb designs and beautifully made.
Frankly, my #1.0000 reason for using Arca Swiss type QR "systems" is that they seem to be truly an industry standard - therby allowing a wide selection of options from many manufacturers. My #1.0001 reason is thay they are exceptionally solid/stable.
Hi Gerard, From your questions, I suspect that you don't already use the Arca Swiss QR system. Go ahead, get either the RRS, or Kirk, D4 bracket to go with your new Markins ballhead - you have nothing to worry about. Everything will be perfect!
If you read some of the many forum posts about the lever-type clamps, you'd find that it is SOMETIMES necessary to make slight adjustments due to the manufacturing tolerances that are unavoidable with machined metal parts, but that is of no consequence as the clamps provide such adjusting screws. This is the reason that many of us prefer the screw-type "receivers" to the lever-type. However, this minor inconvenience is unlikely to even be a possibility unless you have a variety of plates, L brackets and receivers from different manufacturers.
Thank you, Peter, for the information. Currently I only have the Markins D700 L bracket, and I do plan on using both cameras. I am hoping to avoid having to make adjustments every time I switch cameras. I apologize for my confusion. I was hoping that Markins was going to make a D4 bracket, but from their response it seems unlikely.