>The G1327 -detail at right- has even better anti-vibration design >and, although heavier, it is preferred over the G1325 for >professional work, with the center column removed.
The G1325 *is* a G1327 with the center column removed. The only difference between the two in fact is the absence (G1325) or presence (G1327) of a center column.
You might also note that one of the biggest advantages of carbon fiber over aluminum is that it does not conduct heat away from your hands nearly as much as does aluminum. This makes it a sheer joy to use in winter if you are used to an aluminum tripod.
Upon closer examination we noticed more differences that meet the eye at first. Indeed the 1325 has a flat base on top of the legs and the 1327 has a center rapid column, but this three-section tripod is new to the carbon fiber family and has better anti-vibration characteristics in the leg joints. We might make a white paper on that.
On the comment about the attributes of carbon fiber in winter, yes, we will add that. Sometimes the most important things to say are those that seem obvious and were therefore omitted. Thanks.
Anything smaller would not be as good. The recommended ones could be taken aboard a commercial airplane if without spikes, but as security tightens some airlines are beginning to to not allow them inside the cabin.
Thanks for the great run down on tripods. I have a question regarding your recommendation of the Gitzo 1325 or 1327 for tall people. I'm 6'3" and my eyes level is 70" Given the 1325 is 58.3" and an Arca Swiss B1 plus my D100 with MB100 base are 9.5", that adds up to 67.8", 2.2" shorter than my eye level. Any amount of down hill positioning and I'm really bent over. I was thinking of going with the 1348 which is 65.7" giving me room to spare. However, you also recommend against using four section legs. What's the lesser of the two evils: bending over or dealing with skinny tripod legs? The 1348, ball head, and camera combination is 5.2" over my eye level, so I wouldn't have to use all of the fourth section very often.
I'll rather bend a little rather than deal with skinny legs. But it could be me and my lifetime experience: I've never had a girlfriend with thin ankles, so I could be missing something. A good Nikonian friend swears by his G1228 and he is 6'2", maybe 6'3", and tops it with a M20.
Well, that 2.2" can easily be taken care by adding the G1321 Levelling Base.
>Thanks for the great run down on tripods. I have a question >regarding your recommendation of the Gitzo 1325 or 1327 for >tall people. I'm 6'3" and my eyes level is 70" Given the >1325 is 58.3" and an Arca Swiss B1 plus my D100 with MB100 >base are 9.5", that adds up to 67.8", 2.2" shorter than my >eye level. Any amount of down hill positioning and I'm >really bent over. I was thinking of going with the 1348 >which is 65.7" giving me room to spare. However, you also >recommend against using four section legs. What's the >lesser of the two evils: bending over or dealing with skinny >tripod legs? The 1348, ball head, and camera combination is >5.2" over my eye level, so I wouldn't have to use all of the >fourth section very often. > >Thanks, >Curt
Thank you Len. It is never iddle to repeat those items you mention and are now also incorporated under "Tripod technique"
Gitzo is not the one claiming added stability of the G1327 over that of the G1325. It is the result of vibration studies at the Mechanical Engineering Advanced Research Laboratory of the University of Seoul. Most evident are when under the slightest wind. I have unfortunately been unable to make a decent translation from Hangul into English. and their own English version is not quite conveying the whole story. I'll try to see what I can do about that soon.
Your personal view on the 1325 versus the 1227 -which may be extended to the 1327 over the 1227- is most valid: specially without center column. As soon as I get mine I'll add my observations there. Thank you.
P.S. Perhaps you did not see my mesage elsewhere: Could you please write for Nikonians a review of the TC17E teleconverter?
You might be interested in the Manfrotto 441/Bogen 3443 this is a 3 section leg Carbon Fibre tripod, the centre column can be mounted vertcal or horizontal, coupled with the 3 - position of leg spread; of 24, 45 and 65 degrees makes this extremely versatile.I use this with a Manfrotto 468RC2/Bogen 3435QR ball head. This is fine for light/medium weight systems up to 12 pounds. The tripod/ball head is rated at 13.3 lbs and 22 lbs respectively. Not cheap but very light to carry - I have just invested in a Gitzo 1325/Markin M20/Wimberley Sidekick combination to handle my recent purchase of an AF-S 500mm/f4, I`ll certainly keep the Manfrotto for lightweight/closeup work.
I kept a Manfrotto 440 for the purpose you describe, also with a M10 ballhead. I have nevertheless found that the ability to have the column placed horizontally seriously compromises stability and vibration. So it remains in the inventory but for very light work and when there is no wind at all.
Appreciate the very detailed article on tripods as I have spent hours agonizing where my money would best be spent on some good support for my D70s. After perusing several of the Nikonian forums, I had come to the conclusion that I should probably consider either a manfrotto or a gitzo, but....which one? I do a lot of hiking/backpacking and nature photography, so needed something that was not only sturdy and easy to set up; but also something that was reasonably light and compact. You have helped me tremendously - thanks!
"You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus!"
I've just come back from our nikon store where I got my next tripode , the 1228 , it took me some 3 month to come to this decision after reading at various forumes lots of good advise over here. I was fortunate enough to try out 3 tripode at the store , 1348, 1258 but I decided to go for the 1228. It was hard to decide between the 1228 and the 1348 , but as someone has mentioned here you cant just do with one tripode for everything . My present combo at the moment is th D70 , 50/1.8, 28-70/2.8, 180/2.8 and micro 105/2.8 (not the VR one yet ) I wanted one that will also be convenient for travel and even between work and the office . The 1228 is much much sturdier that my 1226 aluminium one and definitely sturdier than the 1258 I tried out . I think the 1258 is a bit of a compromise , its lighter due to the latest 6x technology but is, after all, thinner and you really see the difference vz the 1228 . I know that when I have the money I will probably also get the 1348 , or the 1325 , for harsher condition out in the open , but this 1228 seems to be as sturdy , for my kind of combo . Oh btw as mentioned here , it is surdier when all the legs are out vz , 3 legs out and center colume up , for the same height. I am using a manfrotto ball head but am about to order the markins m10
Hi Avistar I am trying to decide between the same two tripods 1228 vs 1227 that you did. Could you post an update on your experiences since using it for a while?
I am leaning towards the 1228 for compact size while traveling. But estimate the height with TB-20 & M-10 to be 56" (low for my 6'7" height) could you confirm the max height and closed length with Markins set up?
Has anyone tried the Dutch Hill P900 photographers tripod? There are two versions, the larger one going to 71". The company is well known for making quality surveying products. I am looking at this one and the Gitzo 1325. I am also 6'4" and need the extra height.
It is easy to fall for a tripod with a PRO spider a-la-Manfrotto or with an off-center center column a-la-Gitzo; these are usually proposed for macro work. However, in the experience of many advanced amateurs and professional Nikonians, the two types induce instability, vibration and therefore blur, precisely when you need extra-sharpness. It is always best to get a focusing rail or a long sliding plate for macro work and adjust height via the legs. Also, some who have previously chosen a much heavier tripod with a geared center column for height adjustments, eventually give up on them because of the heavy weight or the disappointment on their true sharpness "help". High density digital sensors (10Mpix and above) are even more demanding of very sturdy support than film ever was.
My nikonians, I kneel & I come to you once again for advice....what's your best carbon fiber tripod recommendation for the following rig:
D200 MB200 80-400VR SB800
I may get a 70-200VR, but I'm never going to go to one of the really big guns (600MM etc-although I wish she'd let me!). I just can't get good advice here in NYC without a sales pitch! I prefer screw down legs as I constantly pinch my fingers with the snap locks on my Bogen aluminum!
Most of my work is hummers, birds, wildlife, etc. Oh, and I'm 6'4" tall with a bad back!
G1257 + Markins TB-20 + Markins M10 That combination, apart from an efficient compromise in weight, stability and load capacity gives you a total height of: Tripod with legs open: 54.1 inches TB-20: 1.6 inches M10: 4 inches (add exact height of your ball head in case you already have another one) From clamp to horizontal D200 viewfinder center: 3.6 inches (no MB-D200) Total: 63.3 inches To your height of 6' 4" or 76 inches, substract distance from top of head to eye level, approx 7 inches. So you need 69 inches and you get 63.3. I would take that.
What bothers be more is that you mentioned birding. If that takes panning, then you'll need to add a Wimberley Sidekick, and that takes you higher, like another 5.5 inches to eye level, so it would be perfect if you are adamant about not bending a mm.
To avoid pinching your fingers, just don't use the fingers. Close the snap locks of your Manfrotto with the ball of the palm of your hand.
I am not member 'Godfather' so there is no need to kneel, not to mention ring kissing
Thank you for a very informative thread. I'd like to get a quality, light tripod. I'm just beginning to learn about them. Don't know much except that I understand Manfrotto and Gitzo are the popular ones to choose from. Have a D80, AF 17-35 f/2.8, Af 35-70 f/2.8, the new VR70-300, 18-70DX and several primes. Maybe the VR70-200 someday. Tripod pictures tend to be landscape, or low light shots of a miscellaneous nature. I am 6'0", and will take this with me attached to my Lowepro CompuTrekker Plus AW on walks/hikes.
Would you suggest the G1257 + Markins TB-20 + Markins M10? I have no idea what I just wrote, but if that's your recommendation (as you made above to Bigness & Ruyooka) I'll look into it.
Great info. Thanks very much! I've been reading on this since my earlier post. Just to confirm, you would recommend the G1257 or GT2530 for backpacking? I'd also use it for non-backpacking purposes (probably mostly non-backpacking), but want to make sure I get one light enough to carry around for several hours.