Bogen standard or "Pro" version tripods?
I was just about to place an order for the Bogen 3001BD tripod legset, when I happened to stroll into a camera store I visit every time I make a trip to the Milwaukee area. I found there the Bogen 3001B "Pro" version for a small amount more money. With the 3413QR head, the setup will only cost me about $6 more for the pro version and head vs. the standard version through B&H.
My queston is this. I realize that the Pro version only seems to add the ability to place the center colum horizontally, and adds about 3-4 ounces in weight. It also adds about 1.5-2 inches in height, wich I acutally kind of like. I am wondering what some of the uses for the horizontal placemnt of the center column would be, and if the Pro versions are any more or less stable or have more problems with breakage as the top dome shaped piece doesnt look all that sturdy to me...
Macro work is one reason I can see for the horizontal column, but in what ways would the horizontal position be much more superior to just tilting your camera downwards? Seems it would be less stable on the horizontal plane, as the center of gravity would be shifted away from the more stable legset.
Any opinions, pro's or con's to the "Pro" version legsets?
#1. "RE: Bogen standard or "Pro" version tripods?" | In response to Reply # 0BJNicholls Charter MemberTue 16-Jul-02 01:13 AM
There are limitations on stability, but the horizontal center column is helpful for getting in a good position for macro setups. I often use it for tabletop shots of small products since the tripod legs hitting the table limits me otherwise.
If you spread the tripod legs for ground level shots, the column limits how low you can go. With the pro pods you can either go horizontal or you can put in the "thingy" that stores at the bottom of the center column to go sans-column. The sans-column mode is lighter and makes for a nice hiking package.
Although I prefer the speed of lever locks, I have been "bitten" by the quick locks on our 3001BPro. It's easy to get your palm pinched in the gap at the lever pivot point, so beware. I never was bitten by the locks on my 441 carbon tripod, but the 3001 can deliver a nasty pinch.
#2. "RE: Bogen standard or "Pro" version tripods?" | In response to Reply # 0jwenting Nikonian since 06th May 2002Tue 16-Jul-02 06:36 AM
The Pro is also a bit taller which was the main reason I got it (can get it to eyelevel without using the centercolumn).
Added weight makes it more stable too.
The horizontal centercolumn is nice when shooting low to the ground.
any size is fullframe for a given definition of frame
#3. "RE: Bogen standard or "Pro" version tripods?" | In response to Reply # 2rrweather Registered since 18th Apr 2002Wed 17-Jul-02 04:04 PM
As mentioned before, you can use the center column in the horizontal position when you've got the legs spread wide and the tripod is low to the gound. You can also use it for macro work. For $6, I don't see why you wouldn't get the pro version. You're not incurring too much more weight and you'll be expanding your possibilites. You may only use the center column horizontally once a year but for $6, you have the possibility of doing so. I'd go for it. Watch the buckles like mentioned above, I have gotten pinched a few times when I wasn't paying attention to what I was doing.
#6. "RE: Bogen standard or "Pro" version tripods?" | In response to Reply # 4Thu 25-Jul-02 02:23 PM
Nope, actually I stopped on the way into Milwaukee in Waukesha. I stopped at the Mike Crivello's on Bluemound Rd. It's a decent place with "fairly" knowledgeable staff if you catch the right people.
I will have to look up those two places you mentioned, and browse there as well.
#5. "RE: Bogen standard or "Pro" version tripods?" | In response to Reply # 0
The Pro version is a good tri-pod and if you plan to do any macro work, the ability to move the center column to a horitontal position is a real plus. BUT CAUTION - this tri pod can be a man (woman) eater. The leg levers can & will give you a nasty bite. I read this warning in this forum---thought it would never happen to me---wrong.....OUCH. Other than it's habit of biting, this is a great tri pod. Good luck. Bill
#7. "RE: Bogen standard or "Pro" version tripods?" | In response to Reply # 5Thu 25-Jul-02 02:26 PM
Well, I picked up the "Pro" version this past weekend but have not had much chance to play with it yet...
I have seen multiple referecnes to the pinching problem of the leg clamps. I can see how it could happen now that I have it in my hands. I was thinking you could get a finger pinched when closing the latches, but I see now that opening them is more of a threat. I just hope I don't lose my shutter release index finger...
Thanks for all the advice! It seems like I will be able to do a great deal more with this pod than my old crummy Velbon. And it's a bit sturdier too!
#9. "RE: Bogen standard or "Pro" version tripods?" | In response to Reply # 7mosack Registered since 10th Jul 2002Thu 01-Aug-02 09:44 AM
Well I bought this tripod YESTERDAY. So you can say that I don't have a lot of experiance with it. But you can also believe me that I was so happy that I have tried a lot of possible variations.
I had the same dilema before you (I have ordered mine a two weeks ago), and was considering weight and price. Then I decide to for this one for few reasons:
1. I also choose a MA308 (midi pro ball head with QR) so because of that I have consider that a heavier and sturdier tripod can make paning and catching of subject better/easier/steady.
2. It is high, so you don't have to pull central column at all (unless you need it) and can be quicker and be more steady on just leggs. You don't have to bend down.
3. With PRO central column you have more versatile tripod if you need it.
So one of the application is to put centar column horizontaly fully extended (max to one side, any side) and then shot normaly (horizontaly) from there (low or high position). For egzample you want to shot some scene from a ponton or bridge and you can set you camera little bit out of sideline, you can shot directly to the sky (which is preaty clumsy to do from normal position). You can shot from the bridge directly under.
If you want to shot macro the you have to put tripod "around" the target. In case of animal it can be better to be on top of it but not "around" it.
Or you can just put it sideway, with only 1 1/2 leg segment out and seat comfortably on the floor/ground with your camera infront of you waiting for subject to pop up (animal, racing car, runner or whatever).
"I know that I don't know"