Ballheads: 3262QR / 3055HvyDty / 3413Pro v. 3265 Grip?
What do you think?
Popular opinion has steered me to Bogen, and I'm leaning heavily on the 3265 Grip-- but I'm wondering what your opinions are of these ballheads (~$50). I'll be purchasing this to compliment a3001B-Pro. ) Should I go with the Grip Action, or do one of these particularly shine?
Thanks a bundle. :3
#1. "RE: Ballheads: 3262QR / 3055HvyDty / 3413Pro v. 3265 Gr" | In response to Reply # 0BJNicholls Charter MemberThu 20-Jun-02 01:43 AM
I haven't used the other Manfrotto ballheads, just the Grip Action head. The grip action works well within its limits. As long as the camera is sitting horizontally and the load isn't very heavy, it's good for quick follow-action work. It's not a good head to use for vertical shots. It's very tall and when it and your camera are flopped over for vertical framing, the center of gravity is far off the center of your tripod. Not the best for stability, especially with a smaller tripod like the 3001. The ball is relatively small and it doesn't work very smoothly with enough tension to keep a heavier load from slipping. Finally, it's relatively big and heavy for a small tripod. I've retired mine for use with a spotting scope - a very good application for this particular ballhead.
The best ballhead action will come from a relatively large ball (smoother and more surface area for the locking mechanism). A separate panning action for the base is very useful. A quick release will get you to use your tripod much more often.
I think Bob Atkins is right on with his reviews of the other heads you're looking at:
Bogen/Manfrotto ballheads aren't the greatest, but they're inexpensive and reliable enough.
#2. "RE: Ballheads: 3262QR / 3055HvyDty / 3413Pro v. 3265 Gr" | In response to Reply # 0Lefty Basic MemberThu 20-Jun-02 01:50 AM
I had narrowed my choices for heads down to pretty much the same as yours, last year...I too was leaning towards the 3265 Grip. I ended up getting the 3055S(HvyDty QR- but single-action). I got the single action because the difference is 'panorama ability' vs. non, and since I'm using this head on a monopod - no need/use for that 'pan. ability'. As for the others, can't say for sure, but the 3413 appears to be a bit more sturdy than the 3262(from the picture anyways).
I am still impressed with the 3265 for 'generic nature' shooting;however, as I was told/warned by other Nikonians, if you tend to shoot a lot of vertical shots - that's quite a bit of weight (N90S + SB28 sometimes) off to the side. If you let go of the grip with that rig, watch out! If you shoot 60% or more horizontally or don't intend on using an extra Speedlight, I'd say go for it with that N80
Others that have this head, may tell you the pros & cons, but since I don't own one...
You're only as good as your last shot!
only as good as your last
#3. "RE: Ballheads: 3262QR / 3055HvyDty / 3413Pro v. 3265 Gr" | In response to Reply # 0Tony B Registered since 31st Mar 2002Thu 20-Jun-02 02:22 AM
I too am purchasing the 3001 soon (the BD version though) and had considered all of these heads as well. Here's my 2 pennies...
The grip action head looks nice, but it is quite tall, and I wanted to keep the size down for hiking and packing away. The weight limit seems to be less than the ohter 3 as well, but I have not heard of anyone having any problems pushing the limits. As BJ mentioned, it's kind of tall for taking vertical shots as well.
The 3262QR also seemed like a good head, howver the ball is much smaller than the head on the 3413QR, and I have read in other posts that the 3413QR performs better, and will not slip as easily.
The 3055 has the dual action going for it. However, I don't think I'll have much use for it right now. Aside from that, this unit uses the hex plates. I don't want them. The square 3157N plate on the 3262QR, 3413QR, and the action grip seem much more standard and more available. It is also the plate that is on the 3229QR swivel tilt head I plan to get on my monopod when I decide to purchase one. The hex plates are not used as much anymore, and from what I have read in other posts, the hex plates tended to have more slippage.
So.. I have chosen the 3413QR after reading other posts here. What I like about the 3413QR is that it has everything I'm looking for for under $50. Large smooth action ball, it is a "proball" ball head - hopefully meaning it should perform better than medium ball heads, square 3157N quick release plate that I can use on other heads, it's small, it's light, it has a ratchet style tightening lever, and I have not read anything negative about it yet.
Here is another thread you may find helpful discussing these 3 heads as well...
My vote.. the 3413QR
#4. "RE: Ballheads: 3262QR / 3055HvyDty / 3413Pro v. 3265 Gr" | In response to Reply # 0jeme Registered since 16th Mar 2002Thu 20-Jun-02 11:35 AM
I just recently bought a 3021Pro and 3262QR combination. I thought I wanted the 3055, but when I actually saw it in the store, I decided I didn't want to have to carry it- it's huge! So far, the 3262QR has been very easy and conveinient to use. I really like the simple, one adjustment knob. The biggest lens I have is the 75-300, and it seems to be fine on the 3262QR. Eventually, I'll upgrade, but for the money, I am very happy with it.
#5. "RE: Ballheads: 3262QR / 3055HvyDty / 3413Pro v. 3265 Gr" | In response to Reply # 4NikonicOtter Registered since 26th May 2002Fri 21-Jun-02 10:35 AM
Thanks all for your help. )
I've narrowed it down between the 3413QR, and the 3265. BJ, Lefty, thanks for your tips on that Grip action-- I'll be taking a trip up to the local Penn camera, to try them out before I fully decide. Doing that is always dangerous, though.. It'll tempt me to put a new 70-200 on it, to 'test the weight', and oy. ) I can't afford a new one!
#6. "RE: Ballheads: 3262QR / 3055HvyDty / 3413Pro v. 3265 Gr" | In response to Reply # 5Tony B Registered since 31st Mar 2002Sun 23-Jun-02 08:07 PM
Speaking of checking them out at the local camera store...
I happened to take a little family trip to Minneapolis this weekend, and stopped off at a camerashop that actually carries Bogen equipment! None of the places where I live carry much if any Bogen tripod stuff.
National Camera Exchange in MN, did, and I got a chance to feel all three heads you mention above. Here's what I thought of them.
3262QR - Small. The ball was quite small. Action was smooth. The locking lever locks in both directions, forward and back, which I did not like. Felt like I had to caress it into middle position to keep the head free moving with little friction. When locked up, was easily moveable with my hand (no cameras on any of the heads). Had to really crank down the lever to get a decent hold, but could still move it a tad.
3055 - Actually, did not see this one there. Has the hex plate, which I don't want, so I was not to heartbroken not to have seen it.
3265 Grip - Neat ballhead. Easy to operate for sure. Adjustable tension. Still much taller than I would like for a travelling tripod. I could move the grip around when it was locked in position, however I think there are adjustments that would allow better gripping, but I was unfamliar with the unit and sales people were busy. Not to mention my 2 kids running around all over, not giving me as much time to wait around. I would say it griped about as well as the 3262 with the settings it was at. Great idea, but I like to hold my camera with both hands and move it around on the ballhead more than holding the grip with one hand. Call me insecure..
3413 - Still my pick. I liked this better than the others. Very large ball. This is a bigger ballhead than you may think if you have only seen it in pictures on the web as I have. This thing is massive compared to what I thought it would look like. It is wide, but not too tall. Lever only locks in one direction. Don't need to exert much force to lock it up good either. Releases easily as well with a quick turn of the wrist. Could not move it at all with my hand when locked up. Smooth action. This will be the ballhead I get when I finally place my order at B&H. If my wife wasn't around, I may have just picked it up right there..
So.. those were my impressions. You'll have to let us know what you thought of them when you finally make your decision as well!