The Nikon Germany site has a page devoted to new products. I particularly like the new 24-85 zoom that's faster than my 24-120, even if it isn't lighter. Does anyone know what a G-series lens is?
Here's the link:
#1. "RE: New Nikon products, Photokina" | In response to Reply # 0avm247 Charter MemberMon 28-Aug-00 07:12 PM
Just got off the phone and posted a message the lens section, but
apparently the rumor posted on another website (that you had responded to) was correct (even if the original message was garbled):
The gist was that Nikon would introduce a new series of lenses, Series G, that would lack an aperature control ring. Aperatures would be selected via cameras that have dual command dials (F5, F100, N/F80 and the new N/F65 and of course the D1) so they would be incompatible with older cameras (pre N/F70 or N/F90s/x), I suppose. Advancements in technology... .
BTW, the 24-85 lens does look tempting although I'm really looking at the 18-35 3.5-4.5, myself. I wonder what will happen to all the manual lenses they make now...
#2. "RE: New Nikon products, Photokina" | In response to Reply # 1f5fstop Basic MemberMon 28-Aug-00 08:12 PM
I would say that the loss of the aperture ring will upset some people. Not just those who have the older cameras without the ability to use the command dial for aperture control, but for anyone who likes to use the aperture ring.
I prefer the front command dial, and was always getting confused when jumping between the F5 and N90s. I have talked to quite a few people who currently do the same type of jumping between camera bodies. Some have the F100, others the F5 and they also used N90S's or N70's and they use the aperture ring to stop confusion.
I also met a fellow in NC last year, who has the ability to use the front command dial but refuses to use it, preferring the aperture ring. It's what he learned on, and that's what he will use.
"Take only photographs, leave only footprints"
#3. "RE: New Nikon products, Photokina" | In response to Reply # 2kmeinerth Basic MemberMon 28-Aug-00 08:30 PM
Reading the press release makes me think that the new G-series is a way to make a cheaper, but still quality lense. From what I read, only 1 of the 4 new lenses anounced for Oct is a G-series.
Agree, the 24-85/2.8-4 looks real interesting. I now have the 35-70/2.8 which is not IF. I was thinking of getting the Tok 28-80/2.8, but this looks real interesting to be the lense on my camera most of the time. Be good to see reviews. Love to see a comparison of the 2. It's a 77mm too which is great for most of my filters.
Sure wish they'd reannounce the 80-400 VR with a production date!
Anthony, thanks for the heads up!
#4. "RE: New Nikon products, Photokina" | In response to Reply # 3NikF2AS Basic MemberMon 28-Aug-00 10:15 PM
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So much for backward compatibility of Nikkors.I think in their pursuit to match and outdo "Kwanon",Nikon is actually taking after the Kwannon in certain aspect in my humble opinion.
Value for money is vital in this end of the market and corner will be cut somewhere ( ?construction) but hopefully the glass will do the brand justice.
Have to admit the 24mm-85mm f2.8-4 zoom which is not a G lens (as it has a aperture ring on the web page )is interesting and hopefully will give Kwanon's 24mm- zoom a hiding .
Hope the first time Nikon user(who bought the older AF bodies like N60 ) without unlimited budget for regular upgrade won't be disheartened by the latest development.Difficult to balance backward compatibility issue with progress and need to get a bigger slice of the hotly contested budget end of the pie.
#5. "RE: New Nikon products, Photokina" | In response to Reply # 2frankie Basic MemberTue 29-Aug-00 08:30 AM
I love the command-dial system - and I learned on a lens-dial system. The Nikon apr ring doesn't have a very high resolution, which you DO have with the camera computer. So rather than fiddle around with the clumsy apr dial on the Nikkor, the dial is much better.
As far as backward compatibility is concerned, the new G lenses are price-point lenses. As such they're designed to fill a niche that Nikon has long since lacked presense in. With the release of the F80, and now the F65, they're going to need a good set of cheap lenses so those who buy "price-point" cameras wont be left out in the cold.
In the earlier days of the pp cameras, they generally came with a 50mm lens and the user usually bought a 100mm prime or a 70-210. Now that plastics have come into the equation in a serious way, Nikon can start producing some SERIOUS low end competition against Kwanon...
All Nikon is doing, is playing catch-up. They've devoted a lot of time to the F5 and F100, and are beginning to see the reasoning Kwanon has for cheap-line products.
The F5 and F100 will be ok for the next couple of years at least.
Nikon has now bought the time to fill in the lower half of its market. Although the new F65 will lack MSBFF, and basically just has a body design change over the well-regarded F60, Nikon is very anxious to slam the industry with its new ergonomics (which Kwanon was always respected for) and align its lower end with its higher end with "stripped" or somewhat "crippled" feature-sets of its big-bro cameras (the F80 is the best example of that)
I think it's great - Glad I "got with" Nikon when I did...
#6. "RE: New Nikon products, Photokina" | In response to Reply # 5avm247 Charter MemberTue 29-Aug-00 03:27 PM
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Didn't Nikon offer inexpensive Series E lenses? I believe I read that somewhere in B. Moose Petersons's Nikon System Handbook. (I have it packed away in a box as we are moving into our "new" house this weekend.)
It sounds to me as if the Series G lenses are the autofocus equivilent that will allow all currently sold camera models especially the "entry-level" bodies step into the Nikon System. Keeping the F-mount was a definate plus, and if I'm not mistaken, the 70-300 G had a metal lens mount, not plastic.
Cannon has tends to do release all the whiz-bang-techno gadgets on entry level camera bodies (a la Rebel 2000), refine the technology to where it is more reliable and introduce it in their mid level and high end cameras. Nikon on the other hand seems to be finding a way to make its proven product more readily availible to other target markets, after all, not everyone can afford an F100 with 2.8 af-s zooms.
Although I feel my camera is now discontinued in the Nikon lineup, I'm sure Nikon won't discard those of us who still rely upon aperature rings on our lenses. Afterall, the last time I checked, the F3 and FM2N are still going strong.
I guess I just "need" to buy a new camera body now, that way I can take advantage of VR lenses and such. Yeah, thats it. I'm sure the wife will understand.