If you read my first post here you will know I just got my D50 (bang for buck awsome). However I do feel Nikon are taking the P*** by not including an unlimited use version of capture 4.X.X. Fortunately I have Photoshop CS which found the plug in from the Nikon installation disk but, none the less, I do feel for anyone who thinks they are buying a turn-key solution. Come on Nikon, your customers deserve better.
In the USA versions I can see no reference to Capture being included with the D50! PictureProject is explicitly listed but everywhere I look, Capture is listed as optional. Capture is a $100 piece of software, I wouldn't expect it to be included with any camera under $2000.
I'm pleased you like you D50. It sounds like Nikon has really met the market segment they were targeting with this model.
In the USA the D50 is nominally $600. IME that's a very low price point for a user defined turnkey solution. I hope you are able to find a copy of capture or the necessary functions of that program that meet your needs.
Best Regards, Roger >>As usual, ignore what doesn't apply, then forget the rest.<<
Roger It's still, ISO, aperture and shutter-speed, right?
You weren't robbed, you just didn't do your homework. I agree that Nikon Capture should ideally be provided as part of the basic software you need to get the most from a DSLR. But reality is what it is. The software included is clearly specified and Capture isn't on the list.
Nikon's not alone in this regard. Fuji bundles its hyperutilities in the US, but charges extra for the software in the rest of the world. Others offer converters that aren't very powerful (or very good).
I doubt that the majority of D50 buyers will ever bother with a raw conversion. That's not to say Nikon shouldn't provide a worthy raw converter with every DSLR - perhaps without all the bells and whistles of Capture. But someone buying the entry level model should feel less offended by the Capture surcharge than someone shelling out $5K for a D2X that doesn't include Capture either.
RawShooter Essentials 2005 is good and free raw conversion program, but i cant say for sure if it supports D50 rawfiles due to the WB hassle. RawShooter Essentials 2006 should be out sooner or later and it will have 100% D50 compatibility.
I bought RawShooter Premium 2006 when it was on sale and it has met all my expectations. I did try Nikon Capture and Bibble but RSP 2006 had best interface and it is logical to use.
Well, having thought about it, it's probably the retailler that I should vent my anger out on. I asked at the time of purchase if the kit included all software and the likes and the reply, without hesitation was, "Oh yes sir". I guess I should have been a bit more specific but excitement had got the better of me by this time. My point of reference (if anyone is interested) is the canon range whereby they include the full works digital professional software. Still, at least the camera works great, anyone checked to see if they have a suspect battery yet???
Do other manufacturers include free full featured RAW manipulation programs with their camera's? Do Microsoft include Office Professional free with every copy of Windows? Do Ford include free replacement tyres and servicing for life with every car? In film days how many manufacturers included free dark room set ups with every SLR? You purchased a camera not a complete photographic system.
>Do other manufacturers include free full featured RAW >manipulation programs with their camera's? >Do Microsoft include Office Professional free with every >copy of Windows? >Do Ford include free replacement tyres and servicing for >life with every car? >In film days how many manufacturers included free dark room >set ups with every SLR? >You purchased a camera not a complete photographic system.
Ok- Nikon is forcing you to buy software to get support for RAW files. MS office is not nevessary software if you use Windows. They should offer basic software Free and charge for full copy. We spend lot of money once we buy camera for lenses and other stuff. anyway just my 2 cent.-B
I'm not sure about the D50, but the D70 comes with a copy of PictureProject, which includes the ability to convert RAW images. You can also download a free copy of Nikon View from the Nikon Web site. That also does RAW conversion. (Installing either will also install a Photoshop plug-in that does RAW conversion if you have Photoshop.) Neither of these gives a great deal of flexibility in the RAW conversion. For that you do need additional software such as Nikon Capture or a third-party solution.
So, I think Nikon is doing exactly what you said: including basic software with the camera.
The D50 also comes with a copy of Picture Project. It enables you to do some adjustments to RAW files and ecport them as JPEG. I too would have loved a copy of Capture with my D50, but I don't think that is reasonable to expect. You can do the basics with Picture Project, Capture just gives you a lot more options and better quality exports.
Oh well, nuff said about that, the sun shone briefly in the UK today so I went out and took pictures of leaves, sky and grass. Whilst not the most stimulating subject matter in the world, it did give me the opportunity to impress myself with my new camera.
>Ok- Nikon is forcing you to buy software to get support for >RAW files. MS office is not nevessary software if you use >Windows. They should offer basic software Free and charge >for full copy. We spend lot of money once we buy camera for >lenses and other stuff. anyway just my 2 cent.-B
You do get free software as mentioned by others. Nikon View and Nikon Edit (both free) work well, so does Picture Project (also free), when you load Picture Project or Edit they will also put a plug in into Photoshop (if you have it) for free to allow you basic RAW manipulation with that program. Of course you can also download the free version of Raw Shooter Essentials from Pixmantic if you want something more sophisticated. If you want to pay you have the choice of products from Nikon, Pixmantic, Apple (Aperture) or Breeze. If Capture was included there would be plenty of complaints here about peoples perception that they were paying for Capture within the price of their cameras and did not want it. I can remember somebody suing Toshiba a few years ago because he wanted a notebook with no OS so he could load Linux and Toshiba wouldn't sell him one. He won the case. The same thing would probably happen if Capture were included with Nikons.
The conversion capability and plugin you get with the included Nikon software offers no better control than shooting jpeg. You don't get the full capability of raw unless you invest in Capture or some other real converter - or you find the free third-party alternative acceptable. Picture Project is poor software even if it is "free".
Canon does provide its full-featured converter with its DSLRs. It's not highly regarded by Canon users, but then Capture has issues of its own. I don't think Capture is good enough to justify its price for many users.
I have used the canon offering and whilst it's not brilliant you have no need for photoshop or plug-ins if your pictures are reasonable. I just feel Nikon are doing no one any favours penny pinching like this.
A driver does not have to have free tyres and service to get full use of his auto. A D50 user does have to have Capture to get full use of his camera. An appropriate comparison would be that the driver can't exceed 50mph unless he buys a special performance microchip from Ford.
I don't feel robbed because I read about the software before buying the camera. However I do think it is cheap of Nikon not to include a basic program allowing full use of RAW images.