Had A play for 5 min before the battery died This is on a preproduction D200 with the new 18-200 vr view on lens good for biginners and thats my opinion thus far. look at images and draw your own conclusions PS VR was on. I get to play again tommorow hope this time the battery is charged. Those of you who went throug the trouble to doanload the raw files just use nikon view it opens it sligtly better than the jpegs but no were near the D2x. Viewfinder is a huge improvment on the D70 but once again no where near a D2x
For now Ill stick to my D70 and hope like hell they improve in the production stage then try again. Menu will take day to duscuss it is about the same as the D2x with maybe 1 or 2 extras Im taking my D70 and 50 1.8 with me tomorrow and im going to take the same shots with both inside the store as it is stormy weather here in wellington and the nikon guy did not like the idea of me wanting to stand outside the store to take a photo or two (PS he does not know I had my card in the camera HeHe fool) As expected the lcd is just short of speachless it is realy clear and bright even through the scrached up protector they had on it huge view angle. well If you have any special requests be quick but dont ask me to use old slow lenses I dont have any.
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How can I post the full photos on the net or even raw?
Well the 50 1.8 is not a slow lens, but it isn't AFS either. I'd say bring some non-AFS lenses to try out and directly comapre the focus, such as your 70-300G. Pick up a D2x in the store and compare focus speed with that too, both in aquiring subject and driving the lens.
Also, are these photos cropped or not that you posted? Post processed? If cropped the ISO 800 looks great.
If you can, try it on a good lens such as a 70-200 or a 80-200 instead of the 18-200mm VR. That way we can better judge the camera. To assess the lens, one should mount it to a well known camera such as a D70 or a D2h/X.
Thank you for the efforts but I cannot make any conclusions from your photographs but then again, I wouldn't be able to make any conclusions even if I had the camera in my hands for 30 minutes. Personally, I do not see how comparisons with other Nikon cameras can be made. There just wouldn't be time to investigate what default settings Nikon may have put into the camera and what adjustments that may be needed. I know with my D1H and D2H, I changed from the factory default settings. I know I have never been too thrilled with the first couple of photos that have come from these cameras . Each model has a bias that needs to be dealt with.
Good luck in shooting side by side with the D70 but I do not know how conclusive this would be either. After owning two Nikon DSLRs, I have found that it can be dangerous to make any determinations after just a short time of use.
Well went back today had all the time in the world to play and geus what Im ordering one tomorrow. Funny how time can change your mind I did not compare it to any camera today. I went in with a open mind as yesterday was realy rush rush others want the camera. Once again a flat battery mmm mabe two batterys are compulsory with the d200. I present you with 3 photos all iso3200 no 1 no NR 2 NR low and 3NR high dont ask me what I did with NR normal (its deleted by accedent) I only give the web page where they are they are small as the webpage reduses the size by itseld stupid I need to get my own page setup as this is rather usless I will mail it if anybody is interested also available is iso 100 200 400 800 1600 and at iso 320 all the colour settings from normal, vivid, more vivid,soft, portrait(not a portrait bad example) and the surprise to me B&W. D200 has the same drivemotor as the f6 as per nikon guy (retailer compared side by side fucus speeds same as d2x and F6 sligtly slower than d2h for some odball reason) Focus has no problems tracking a car at 50Km.h. 11 segment focus is realy something special I tried all the combination and in short it werks like this any one of the 11 sensors (actualy uses 3 as per nikon guy priority to one selected) grouped to the left, right, top, bottom or centre all works realy well and any wories about cam 1000 should be focused to how it performs in th dark in daylight it works like a charm. From what I understood cam 1000 works by combining vertical and horizontal sensors where cam 2000 has more cross sensors. the result was a cheaper focusing system equily capable at half the cost of cam 2000. Guess we will have to wait and see on this one if it is as good oa cam 2000 in the dark. Colours are rich and acurate just like d2h. Like I said before I can email these to somone who has a webpage so they can be viewed better. These have been made to small by photobucket
Please compare the noise reduction results not just for noise but for detail loss. I did ask if anybody had a webpage so we can get the pictures up as my only means to post them is photobucket wich has a maximum file size of 512kb.
On its way but it is a huge email. ok canceled email as my isp locked up on the file size 2 hours and still only at 10% I have now redused file size a bit jpg10 and scaled to D70 size pixel count. Images still seem to compair well so I sent you multiple emails with 5 or so of these photos. Thanks for the help
Sorry mate I killed you email it is now full. 3 hours later got to get high speed internet. Photos not there will be the B&W shot Portrait(not a good example anyway ) Default Same settings as yesterday far from what the camera is capable of (weird nikon thats all I can say) softer (just less contrass even darker than normal) so no great losses there I do like the B&W though needs a orange filter to make it bit more punchy but it is a realy good starting point reminds me of results I get using Ilford fp4.
Thanks for the images at Iso 3200, even thought this is on the computer and really difficult to tell what they are going to be like in printing, I find that the noise is comfortable reduce to expect great images for what I want to use the D200 for. It would seem if 3200 is giving you the results displayed then 1600 will be a great setting for the sports shots and that's a plus, I usually stay around 1200 for indoor sports. This will be a great camera with my D2H.
I have edited a couple of posts in this thread, which were getting a little personal.
It would be good if we could all try to make sure that what we post can not be taken the wrong way - the use of "smilies" can help, but careful choice of words is even better. Let's remember that for many of our members, English is not their first language.
If you lived in New Zealand I could direct you to a shop that has the camera till friday. If you are comming from A D70 dont wory it will be like a dream come true. As for the d2h I have only used it a couple of times as a rental and to me it compares very well in daylight cant say about nighttime. From my discussion with the nikon rep, nikon is now using multiple sensors instead of cros tipe as it was cheaper and they think it is working good enough to satisfy d200 level users, knowing it will be used as backups for d2h users id say it has to perform well in the dark tomabe not quit cam 2000 but close. More samples should be available soon I have emaild them to one of the guys who will post it on his website.
Before anybody jumps down my throat all images have been resized to 2048x1536 and saved at jpg scale 10. These photos have not been alterd in any other way. Photos were taken with nikon D200 an 18-200 VR lens exp =0.7 unless stated diferent. All exif data should be intact.
At the same time thanks Bruce for the trouble he went through to get these on his website.
I've just edited your post so that the images, being so large, do not display in-line. The forum software automatically does this for file names ending in .jpg
To avoid this in future, do it like this, please:
>Brian: > >How do I access these pictures? I clicked on the links and >got a address error.
It appears the Admin put a question mark at the end of each file name. You'll need to copy and paste the url into your browser without the question mark. Be sure to remove the double quotes at each end as well. Your browser may resize the image smaller. However, if you right click the image in your browser you should be able to download it (Save picture as) and then display it with whatever viewer you wish.
Fantastic! Now when can I buy one of these bodies? I am not a patient person and this is just raising my level of anxiety. I have to shoot a Christmas service on December 11th and I will have to make do with my D70. It sure would be nice to have the D200 by then but that doesn't look good.
I don't think you'll get it by the 11th Jim - I'm out here in Japan, and even around "Akihabara Electric Town" where they tend to get stuff early, there is no sign of the camera yet. Stores over here in Tokyo are starting to put price labels up and reserve shelf space....